KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 little slow on the draw, aren't you? you caught yourself in your hypocrisy. good boy! Quote
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 not really chief. I don't have hypocrisy because I don't have a huge house, now do I? In fact, my house was built in 1940, and I have room to spare, even with my mound of climbing gear. Enjoy your CRAP! Quote
G-spotter Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 i have a cave and in the winter, an igloo Quote
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 i would have thought you lived in a treehouse, or a geodesic dome. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 not really chief. I don't have hypocrisy because I don't have a huge house, now do I? In fact, my house was built in 1940, and I have room to spare, even with my mound of climbing gear. Enjoy your CRAP! You are a hypocrite because you buy useless crap that you don't need. Luxury items of a fat, rich, energy consuming nation. Your crap contributes unnecessarily to the carbon footprint of the world. And consider all the gas you burn driving to your crags and trail heads as you engage in your rich-man's sport. You're no different than any other American, you moralizing posturing hypocrite. How do you like them apples? Quote
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 WRONG AGAIN! You are totally missing the point, AS USUAL. The point was that people are buying bigger HOUSES because they are FILLING them UP WITH CRAP. I trust you are not so STUPID as to miss read the key words I have CAPITALIZED for you to ASSIST you reading SKILLS...of which you seem to have NONE. And yes, I am rich. But not because of MONEY. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 WRONG AGAIN! You are totally missing the point, AS USUAL. The point was that people are buying bigger HOUSES because they are FILLING them UP WITH CRAP. I trust you are not so STUPID as to miss read the key words I have CAPITALIZED for you to ASSIST you reading SKILLS...of which you seem to have NONE. Sorry, bub, but you miss the point. You are selectively attacking Americans for their WASTE and FATNESS, of which you are just as WASTEFUL and FAT. The CRAP they fill their big homes with is no different from the CRAP you buy for yourself or the WASTE you expend to pursue your rich-man's sport. How convenient for you to try to focus on another man's splinter, while ignoring the log in your own eye. And my house is not full of crap, sir. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 btw ENJOY YOUR CRAP CONSUMER! Likewise! Enjoy your cams, ropes, ice axes and tools, ice screws, slings, harnesses, helmets and other consumer shit you buy to support your sport, bub. Quote
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Do you have even basic reading skills? ARE YOU COMPLETELY RETARDED? This thread is about HOUSING. I said, I live in a 1940s house. It is less than half the size of most houses built today. And I clearly have missed out on my consumer duties, because it isn't full yet of consumer items thus requiring to move into a MODERN 4000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE. The only LOG is coming out of my BROWN EYE, down on your ILLITERATE fool head. Quote
JayB Posted August 28, 2007 Author Posted August 28, 2007 What about older houses that are poorly insulated and equipped with extremely inefficient appliances? Seems like total consumption would determine who has the highest eco-virtue, not necessarily the size of the home. Quote
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 What about older houses that are poorly insulated and equipped with extremely inefficient appliances? Seems like total consumption would determine who has the highest eco-virtue, not necessarily the size of the home. So true. The windows need to get replaced and insulation, etc. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Do you have even basic reading skills? ARE YOU COMPLETELY RETARDED? This thread is about HOUSING. I said, I live in a 1940s house. It is less than half the size of most houses built today. And I clearly have missed out on my consumer duties, because it isn't full yet of consumer items thus requiring to move into a MODERN 4000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE. The only LOG is coming out of my BROWN EYE, down on your ILLITERATE fool head. olyclimber, I give up, you are indeed so much more moral than me or any American who has a bigger house than you. you stand on a pedestal of moral superiority for your personal life choices, which must be emulated by all Americans or be condemned to eternal damnation. your lack of consumerism in any way, shape or form should indeed be obvious to all. you are good, and pure as virgin snow. everyone with a bigger home than you is pure, unadulterated evil, surrounded by crap, which they have bought to fill up the void of their soul as symbolized by their large® home (than you own). you should be made the czar of sparse, economic, clutter-free living under the next administration, and engage in a war on consumerism, funded by tax payer dollars and enforceable by anti-walmart death squads. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 ARE YOU SHOPPING ONLINE RIGHT NOW??? mvn clean build mvn tomcat:deploy spray repeat Quote
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 now you're coming around. but too late, i'm off to single handedly support the US economy with my purchases. you know, it is possible to talk critically about a society which you participate in? Quote
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 And everything I say is calculated appropriated Written and arranged in Feng Shui Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 you know, it is possible to talk critically about a society which you participate in? As I said before I agree with you up to a point. I don't know who needs a 4000 sq ft house. But I don't think 4-5 people in a 2500-3000 sq ft house is out of line. But 1-2? Yes. It's all relative. I moved into Snohomish 8 years ago. Most of the new homes were 3-4 bedroom homes with 1700-2000 sq feet. Not 4000 sq ft as you cited - don't know where you are getting that from... Quote
cj001f Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 What about older houses that are poorly insulated and equipped with extremely inefficient appliances? Doesn't that require using the heating and the appliances? Quote
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Interesting to see house sizes balloon from what they used to be back in the day. All the little boxes out in the West Seattle are slowly being replaced with huge behemoths such as the towering sun eclipser next door. I guess it goes hand in hand with the fattening and spine weakening of america. Back in what day? My house is right around 3400 sq ft and it is a hundred years old. Why is it suddenly a "mansion". And for everyone else out there ready to tell me I should live in a 600 sq ft studio--fuck you. One of the many things I like about living in America is I can live wherever the fuck I want. Just so happens, I chose to live in the best thing in the best place I can afford (all subject to my own opinions and tastes obviously). And I agree that changing the status quo on this deduction sucks; many of us factored that into our purchasing decisions (it doesn't change my ability to live in my home--but I have other homes I also finance and use as income property). Our tax system is screwed--but don't fuck the middle class in the ass til the ass is worn out. Try taxing the uber rich, the mega hedgefunds, equity brokerages, and the corporations at the same rate those of us in the middle class get taxed. At least pretend to be fair. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 And for everyone else out there ready to tell me I should live in a 600 sq ft studio--fuck you. Say what's really on your mind, Archie!!! Quote
cj001f Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 And for everyone else out there ready to tell me I should live in a 600 sq ft studio--fuck you. One of the many things I like about living in America is I can live wherever the fuck I want. Just so happens, I chose to live in the best thing in the best place I can afford (all subject to my own opinions and tastes obviously). Nobody ever said you couldn't do whatever you wanted with your money, so fuck you for expecting everyone to pay for your luxury. Quote
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Archenemy, you really should be living in 600 sq ft dungeon. Quote
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