ken4ord Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 The device I am talking of is a strictly friction unit not intended for belay but actually for Via ferrata. What hell man....be real your going to carry this shit on alpine route or the crags? Quote
ketch Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 I havn't for alpine. I have for some craggin. You wouldn't carry a screamer to a crag? . For close to the same weight I can use this as a screamer. Some of the local crags are delicate. I can preset these for low force activation and allow quite a bit of extension to really distribute the time. Then just reset ansd reuse if needed. Quote
Rad Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Remember the KISS acronym? For getting started, lock off and just catch the fall. In 99.9% of situations getting fancy is asking for trouble. Anything that absorbs energy adds to the dynamic quality of the belay. Dynamic comes from many places: 1 - Rope stretch. 2 - Harness pinching belayer body. 3 - Mass/inertia/movement of belayer. 4 - Rope slip through device. 5 - Knot tightening (both ends). 6 - Minimal stretch of other components (e.g. slings). Quote
high_on_rock Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Perhaps another argument for having a fat belayer, the fat belly within my harness acts as a large mass of movable counterweight to make belays dynamic. Fat is beautiful baby! Quote
sk Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Penalty slack! can be a great motivator to keep climbing and to NOT FALL Quote
rob Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Penalty slack! can be a great motivator to keep climbing and to NOT FALL Can be a great motivator to kick someone's ass Quote
RuMR Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Remember the KISS acronym? For getting started, lock off and just catch the fall. In 99.9% of situations getting fancy is asking for trouble. Anything that absorbs energy adds to the dynamic quality of the belay. Dynamic comes from many places: 1 - Rope stretch. 2 - Harness pinching belayer body. 3 - Mass/inertia/movement of belayer. 4 - Rope slip through device. 5 - Knot tightening (both ends). 6 - Minimal stretch of other components (e.g. slings). well put! Quote
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