Colin Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Anyone out there know of any TRULY light carabiners? I imagine something like the Neutrino, but with "thinner walls" so as to save weight, but not lose size. The result would be something of similar size/shape, less weight, and less strength. I'm thinking that if the "walls" were made about %20 thinner, a Neutrino would be rated to about 18 kN rather than 24 kN, and would weigh about 30 g instead of 36 g. Not something to take cragging or on bigwalls, but adequate for a lot of alpine stuff. Faders makes a 12 kN carabiner, but I think that would be a bit too weak, and it looks like it is small as well. Is there anything made like I am describing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Have you checked out the Kong Heliums? Light as Neutrino's, but they have the key-lock. Kind of expensive, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 http://www.kong.it/climbin1.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayborbon Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Colin,You want the DMM prowire. Light as neutrino and more gate clearance as well as full size and easy to clip on top or bottom. Promountainsports again baby. Gotta love that lightweight shit! http://www.dmmclimbing.com/www_noflash/products/non_locking_kara/prowire/main.asp Prowire 24 kN 8 kN 8 kN 36grams 24 mm [ 03-29-2002: Message edited by: rayborbon ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Hey! Check out this prose about the Neutrinos on the BD website "Lighten the load with the 36 gram Neutrino and set yourself free." ...same weight as those biners Ray is talking about by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayborbon Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 quote: Originally posted by chucK: ...same weight as those biners Ray is talking about by the way Yes the same but a neutrino is tiny and not full sized like the pro wire Put one next to each other and see for yourself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceIceBaby Posted March 31, 2002 Share Posted March 31, 2002 Trango make the lightweight II I have them and they working very well even with gloves on they are 36 g $5.95 a piece 24kn and a little bigger (27mm gate opening) then the Nutrino with the same rope radios as the Nutrino (9mm) [ 03-31-2002: Message edited by: IceIceBaby ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodchester Posted March 31, 2002 Share Posted March 31, 2002 Check out these. They might be what you are looking for. http://www.omegapac.com/product.asp?id=573 I use the neutrinos and really like them. The size isn't bad as long as you don't have gloves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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