tomdav Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 OK, forgive me folks. I'm not necessarily a climber but I do occasionally scramble and I'm thinking of getting some lightweight head protection. I was dorking around the net and saw this reasonably priced helmet called the "crag hat" for $36 at http://www.bittersweetgear.com/helmets.html. Would any of you recommend this helmet or have another suggestion? I was also thinking about the Petzl Meteor (strictly from the minimal grams standpoint) but was a little concerned re. the "one time use" disclaimer, not to mention cost. Thanks for your feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To_The_Top Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 I would stay away from the Crag Hat. For less than $25 it is worth getting a better helmet, like the Petzl Ecrin Roc, especially if you get into climbing more. I climb with some guys who have the Meteor, and are ok if put on and adjusted right, but I feel safer with the Roc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 I like the lightweight (ie. foam) helmet made by Camp. It fits well and is easy to adjust. It's best to keep it on the inside of your pack to avoid superficial, but scary looking dents in the shell. Kinda spendy though... Check and see if the "crag hat" is UIAA aproved before you buy one. [ 01-13-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellemontagne Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 If you check the manufacturer's warning on just about all helmets, they will advise you to discontinue their use in the event of a hard impact - no matter if they are plastic like the Ecrin Roc or high density foam like the Meteor. The materials are designed to absorb one severe impact. After a severe impact, the helmet has lost its ability to absorb an additional impact. The Ecrin Roc's are a little heavy-that's what I use. But, they are easy to attach a headlamp to, and they are pretty durable. I have heard good things about the Meteor, but you have to buy special clips to attach a headlamp. Black Diamond has a new high density foam helmet that's pretty stylish, and it is easy to attach a headlamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdav Posted January 14, 2002 Author Share Posted January 14, 2002 According to the link above it says the Crag Hat is "CE certified and UIAA approved". I saw it at Marmot Mountain Works in Bellevue and it didn't seem any less sturdy than the rest, but it sure was easier on the pocket. What do you like about the Erin Roc? Seems heavy (100 grams more), but a lot of folks seem to like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharmabum Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 I use a construction hard hat. It was super cheap, OSHA approved for overhead impacts, it's light, needs no chin strap, and I have to wear one just like it everyday anyway. No it's not UIAA approved, but neither am I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To_The_Top Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 I have never seen the crag hat, but for me the Roc seems more solid, and can withstand a impact pretty well, or even a fall. Many of the accidents also include a fall after a hit, and that is where a helmet like the Roc seems to hold on. Just reading between the lines, but I feel that past the hit the Roc would protect you in a fall that might happen following a hit. I am convinced that the construction would evenly divide the force over the whole area. I have seen the other helmets, and sure they seem lighter, but more the Roc seems solid as far as fit. If there is less exposure I have seen where a bike helmet would work, like crossing below the cleaver, this is where a lighter helmet might come into play. I travel light mostly, but carry the Roc on most rockfall exposure trips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdav Posted January 14, 2002 Author Share Posted January 14, 2002 Thanks, some really good points there TTT. I hadn't even considered the fall ramifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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