Dru Posted November 1, 2001 Share Posted November 1, 2001 Looks like the best screw racking thing to me.But I haven't tried one yet. CoOp doesnt carry them wah! (What up with that "fishstick?") So where is a good place to stop in and buy one as I beeline down from BC to Smith next weekend? And has anyone out there who has used em got any comments? Previously Ive just been using big ass sport bentgates with the Arcteryx ID on them. The Charlet racking system looks silly and the simond double biner thing costs $30, thats kinda pricy. Any others? I know Grivel has the condom thing but buying ten of them would get kinda pricy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted November 1, 2001 Share Posted November 1, 2001 BD used to make this big 'ol biner called The Fin. It worked pretty good. The new clipper thing looks good, and a lot lighter. Ive just been using hotwires. I'd stop at Feathered Friends, right of of I-5 in Seattle. The should have them, along with 100 other ultra tech things that you'll want really badly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted November 1, 2001 Share Posted November 1, 2001 Dru, I've got one of the "clippers" but you're right, we don't sell them. They're OK, but in my opinion not really any better than a small nosed biner held in place with an ID. Considering you'll need up to four of the units (and four Ids to better secure them), I'd say save your cash. GB P.S. Fins fail at the task. Screws ride up above the nose, then slide down and open the gate (and fall off). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_e Posted November 1, 2001 Share Posted November 1, 2001 I picked up two BD ice clips at Marmot in Bellevue the other day. I had never seen them, and in pictures they seemed to be really wide, like the old "fin" sport biners. I was happy and surprised to see they are lower profile than even a regular hotwire and longer so you can rack more screws. I will be using these on BD's Blizzard harness this season, this harness has a slot in the webbing on each side to accomodate them, this is nice because it's more stable than using it on a regular harness. I mainly used the Trango Ice Clips last year, but even though I liked the fact that they were low profile, I did occasionally almost lose gear while tring to re-rack screws. I gave these positive reviews last season, but I am going to re-post on why I am switching to ice clippers. Hope that helps. Oh one more thing, they are hardly expensive, only $4.95 each. Dan E. [ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: dane ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CascadeClimber Posted November 1, 2001 Share Posted November 1, 2001 Trango Ice Clippers suck. They catch on gear and clothes and bend easily. Twice last year I had screws fall off them in the middle of a pitch. Besides that, they really dug into my hips at hanging belays. I'll be trying the BD plastic-biner units this winter. At $4.95 they are cheaper than a large wire-gate. Plus they are light and come with a nice little rubber keeper-thingy that makes them easy to adjust/remove YMMV -Loren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EV Posted November 1, 2001 Share Posted November 1, 2001 Dru: I've used both. I use a BD Hotwire biner and an ID. The Ice Clipper works fine, but I like the idea where if I needed an extra biner, I take off the ID. Hope that makes sense. Anyhow, you can't go wrong with either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Parker Posted November 1, 2001 Share Posted November 1, 2001 Previous posts on all this stuff last year if you want to search. Trango thing sucks. Low profile limits # of screws and makes them stick out to rip stuff. Plus it's all metal and digs into your hip. It's also difficult to add/remove from your harness. I like the BD clipper and have one on each side. Cheaper and lighter then a metal biner. Easy to take off in summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_e Posted November 2, 2001 Share Posted November 2, 2001 Hey Dave, I did not think you were in to all the new, high-tech gear?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Parker Posted November 4, 2001 Share Posted November 4, 2001 Oh yeah, I forgot I don't live in Maine anymore!! Actually, I bought them at IME in North Conway!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael_H Posted November 8, 2001 Share Posted November 8, 2001 Nowadays the BD Blizzard harness comes with one Ice Clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texplorer Posted November 8, 2001 Share Posted November 8, 2001 If your going to Smith there is the Redpoint store that surprisingly has a good selection of ice tools and should have your clipper too. You don't even have to make a detour since its right on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 8, 2001 Author Share Posted November 8, 2001 Right on, thanks, I didn't know if Redpoint had ice gear or not, I will look for them there and if not there at the gear store in Bend. weather.com says it is going to rain sun-mon-tues so we will probably be spending a lot of time wandering in the lava tubes or whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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