prole Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Operation Gottago Operation Saddamesque Strongman Quote
joblo7 Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 i know let's blow some folks up and blame islam. then we can get mo money for war. we call it operation gap that ass Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 21, 2006 Author Posted December 21, 2006 i know let's blow some folks up and blame islam. then we can get mo money for war. we call it operation gap that ass yeah, Islamic extremists have nothing to do with any of this. and let's not forget that Mohammad was a terrorist. Quote
cj001f Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 But Mohammad got more ass than Ashcroft, more booty than Bork, more cono than Cheney, more............ Quote
jimlup Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 For those old enough to remember Vietnam - this is history in rerun. Iraqification = Vietnamization "Stay the course", "We aren't losing", "We are winning in Vietnam (Iraq)", "We must win in Vietnam (Iraq)", blah, blah, blah. From the honest information that I have seen: "The U.S. will leave Iraq with its tail between its legs" This can either happen now or years from now with 1000's of more U.S. troop injuries and deaths and billions of $'s wasted. Look, I think most of the elites and the generals know this (although Bush has no clue). And staying in Iraq is about appearences. Appearences that the U.S. policy in the Middle East isn't totally flawed. But it is and that is obvious to most. The dems don't have the backbone to do anything except get blamed for the failure of Iraq policy in 2008 (even though it is Bush and the repubican's fault). The dems have no spines. So fellow climbers - climb on! There is little you can do except pay your taxes. This country isn't a "free western democracy" or anything vaguely like that, so go climb a mountain ... Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Except we're not going to get pho out of the deal. Quote
Hendershot Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Islamic Extremists are the same as Fundamentalist Christians. When the Federal building in Oklahoma was bombed, was there any profiling of extreme right wing fundamentalist Christians? Did our "War on Terror" begin there? Was that when our President begin tapping phones without warrents? Was a Homeland Security act passed to quitely impeade on our civil rights "for our owe safety"? No, because the attackers were white militant Christians, just like Waco. We wrote them off as some whacked extremists and didn't use them as a basis for wholesale condemnation of an entire group of people, as a portion of our citizens are doing now. Quote
joblo7 Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 there was no oil in waco. no new stuff anyway.we gonna stay in iraq until the oil is gone. hell in 5 years we fucked them out of oil profits,plus the 20 billions ear marked for reconstruction and the gravy off of the 800 billions we morons approved for this invasion that should cost 20. in this case failure is more profitable than success. Quote
joblo7 Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 anybody who thinks this is about religion is misguided by bush.or once he is gone by the next puppet of the real leaders.us president is the most powerfull puppet in the world. like carter said when he first started to serve was that he gave a bunch of orders....and nothing happened. ok it was carter but clinton had same problem Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 21, 2006 Author Posted December 21, 2006 For those old enough to remember Vietnam - this is history in rerun. Iraqification = Vietnamization "Stay the course", "We aren't losing", "We are winning in Vietnam (Iraq)", "We must win in Vietnam (Iraq)", blah, blah, blah. From the honest information that I have seen: "The U.S. will leave Iraq with its tail between its legs" This can either happen now or years from now with 1000's of more U.S. troop injuries and deaths and billions of $'s wasted. Look, I think most of the elites and the generals know this (although Bush has no clue). And staying in Iraq is about appearences. Appearences that the U.S. policy in the Middle East isn't totally flawed. But it is and that is obvious to most. The dems don't have the backbone to do anything except get blamed for the failure of Iraq policy in 2008 (even though it is Bush and the repubican's fault). The dems have no spines. So fellow climbers - climb on! There is little you can do except pay your taxes. This country isn't a "free western democracy" or anything vaguely like that, so go climb a mountain ... It's not like Vietnam. Sorry, try again. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 21, 2006 Author Posted December 21, 2006 Islamic Extremists are the same as Fundamentalist Christians. When the Federal building in Oklahoma was bombed, was there any profiling of extreme right wing fundamentalist Christians? Did our "War on Terror" begin there? Was that when our President begin tapping phones without warrents? Was a Homeland Security act passed to quitely impeade on our civil rights "for our owe safety"? No, because the attackers were white militant Christians, just like Waco. We wrote them off as some whacked extremists and didn't use them as a basis for wholesale condemnation of an entire group of people, as a portion of our citizens are doing now. No they are not they same. Anyone who believes that is a stupid motherfucker. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Well said. Oh, wait...why isn't it? Quote
Hendershot Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Islamic Extremists are the same as Fundamentalist Christians. When the Federal building in Oklahoma was bombed, was there any profiling of extreme right wing fundamentalist Christians? Did our "War on Terror" begin there? Was that when our President begin tapping phones without warrents? Was a Homeland Security act passed to quitely impeade on our civil rights "for our owe safety"? No, because the attackers were white militant Christians, just like Waco. We wrote them off as some whacked extremists and didn't use them as a basis for wholesale condemnation of an entire group of people, as a portion of our citizens are doing now. No they are not they same. Anyone who believes that is a stupid motherfucker. Wow, that is how you articulate your point, compelling..... Quote
cj001f Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 It's not like Vietnam. Sorry, try again. no fucky-fucky? Quote
jimlup Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 For those old enough to remember Vietnam - this is history in rerun... It's not like Vietnam. Sorry, try again. I'm only refering to the retoric. Obviously the geo-political situation is different. (Or is it??!) Are you old enough to remember the news during Vietnam? I'm too lazy to check your profile. I mean, it is haunting. Like Johnson and Nixon and his friends have all risen from the dead. Praise the nation state! The bumbling Empire marches on! Quote
joblo7 Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 the most profound decision 'w' ever made on his own was wether to use a 20 or a 50 to suck his blow. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 I'm not sure it's just the rhetoric, but let's take a look. Got into a war under false pretenses: check. Involved ourselves in a civil war where our 'ally's government is so weak as to be nonexistent: check No clear goals for the conflict: check Our involvment base on Big Idea (containment of communism, containment of radical Islam): check "Can't afford anything but victory": check Keep doing the same thing over and over long after we know we're in a shithole: check Wildly innacurate body counts (Vietnam: systematic overestimation of enemy KIA, Iraq: No count of civilian or insurgent casualties): check Our involvement destabilizes a region to the point where our enemies gain regional control and wreak havoc (Vietnam: Pol Pot, etc, Iraq: Iran, insurgents, Al Qaeda): check War costs ballooned far, far out of control: check Ineffectiveness of our superior firepower against guerilla warefare: check Inability to understand the culture of allies and enemies alike: check Began a war that the experts in the region strongly advised against: check What's not to love? Quote
joblo7 Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 all that shit you read on tv.or in the 100% jewish controlled press. you've just arranged propaganda in a fine order but it is still has nothing to do with reality. Quote
joblo7 Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 the motivation of war is money. in this case war is a transfer of 800 billions from the us people to the planetary elite.the actual conflict is an excuse,,,, like the cold war.or the fake moon shit. or now the conquest of mars. they dont fix katrina cause thats an expenditure. iraq , now thats an investment Quote
joblo7 Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 as religion was the opium of the masses , it has been replaced by television.all tv and all papers are own by the same people who own the arms plants. if they dont make their trillion on this fake war,where are they supposed to go. sell ice tools,,,in 1990 after the usssr collapse, those boys made a plan to use terrorism as the next enemy for the next 50 years.since there was not enough of it to get taxpayers to fork over all our cash they created most of what you seen in last 10years,usscole/african embassies/ london/madrid/toronto etc etc including their crown achievement 911. all to terrorise you. and it has worked, read chomsky and others Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 21, 2006 Author Posted December 21, 2006 It's not like Vietnam. Sorry, try again. no fucky-fucky? me so horny. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 21, 2006 Author Posted December 21, 2006 Got into a war under false pretenses: check. wrong. the real reason for going to Iraq is clear to everyone: it's part of a geopolitical strategy. Of course the sheeple were given lots of sound bytes, but citing the sound bytes to say the war is fake and done under false pretenses is disingenuous at best, and Machiavellian at worst. Is this geopolitical strategy sound? Is it being implemented correctly? Well, those are legitimate questions. And the answer is not a simple black-white yes-no. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 21, 2006 Author Posted December 21, 2006 all that shit you read on tv.or in the 100% jewish controlled press. you've just arranged propaganda in a fine order but it is still has nothing to do with reality. I guess you have a final solution for this "Jewish Problem"? Islamo-Fascism as a term sometimes fits oh so well. Quote
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