tradclimbguy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 5'6" with a neg. ape index. So compared to alot of hard climbers I'm a giant even with a poor reach. But then again I'm also 270 lbs. which limits me to mostly easy 5.14's. well...i'm about 5'-5" with a spare tire and a dead even ape index... sure, there are the anomalies as far as this route is harder cuz your short, but in general, there is almost always a way around a reach... Ahhh, so you did understand. I guess I should retract some of my other statements then I'd say though that the anomalies are alot more frequent the bigger the height difference is off of whatever they consider the norm for rating stuff. Yes, there is usually a way around a reach and it might even just be another variation at the same grade, but then it might not be! oohhh, now thats too hard for my brain to wrap around. hahaha Too easy, just too easy to get everyone going. -Evil TradClimbGuy Quote
tradclimbguy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Fat dude, Fat. Not shit. I thought I made that clear in the first post to this thread. Quote
catbirdseat Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Did you or did you not say you can climb 5.14 and that you weigh 270 lbs? Quote
RuMR Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 personally, i feel that bitching about a grade being different than what its given in a guide book or your buddy had it easier than you is weak...its an excuse and nothing else...you can cover this with your sarcasm and what not, but its weak... for me its always boiled down to a fitness issue...if a route felt inordinately harder than what i'm expecting, than its time to stop stuffing donuts into my piehole... Quote
RuMR Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Did you or did you not say you can climb 5.14 and that you weigh 270 lbs? he also said that he needed to climb 5.12 to climb 5.11, so really his 5.14 is actually 5.15... Quote
tradclimbguy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Yes, exactly. Full of Fat. Didn't you see the picture? Just trying to keep it fun mixed with a bit of personal thought. Too bad too many people take it so serious they either attack whatever you wrote or can't take an obvious fun jab. I guess including "hahaha" after a jab isn't good enough to elude to trying to be funny and not a serious mean comment. Quote
catbirdseat Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 I'd be willing to buy a beer to the first person who can prove there is a single person in the world who weighs 270 lb, regardless of height, who can climb 5.14. Quote
tradclimbguy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Did you or did you not say you can climb 5.14 and that you weigh 270 lbs? he also said that he needed to climb 5.12 to climb 5.11, so really his 5.14 is actually 5.15... no no no, I specifically stated that b/c I was short AND fat that climbing 5.14 obviously made it 5.15b/c but that I didn't want to just throw around numbers like that. Didn't I mention that I'm actually the first person to climb a 5.15. It's a little known route called Godzilla at this secret climbing spot known as index. Watch out though, its a doozy. It's just a tips only crack for my fat mits and its expando, or maybe thats just cause I did it when I weighed 340. Quote
tradclimbguy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 I'd be willing to buy a beer to the first person who can prove there is a single person in the world who weighs 270 lb, regardless of height, who can climb 5.14. I think that beer would go to whomever could talk Chris Sharma into gaining that weight. Quote
colt45 Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 I'm 6'3; my girlfriend is 5'3. We both climb at basically the same grade for sport, trad, bouldering, and gym climbing. If height was a major determination of climbing ability, wouldn't the top climbers all be 7-8 feet tall?? Quote
mountainmatt Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 Then what about weight? Someone that weighs well over 200 (or possibly even 270) is going to have a hard time pulling on small edges of a 11 or 12 (not to mention a 14 or 15 b/c). Quote
mountainmatt Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 Height matters. End of topic. Way to weigh in on the subject! We can all sleep well tonight. Quote
mountainmatt Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 I think that beer would go to whomever could talk Chris Sharma into gaining that weight. That would be great to see. Sharma at 270! Haa haaa haa Quote
catbirdseat Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Height matters. End of topic. Not the point. We can do something about weight. But short of radical surgery, we cannot change our stature. Quote
fenderfour Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 eviltradclimbguy said "its expando, or maybe thats just cause I did it when I weighed 340." Awesome! It's all expando when I lever my fat ass on it. Quote
tradclimbguy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 eviltradclimbguy said "its expando, or maybe thats just cause I did it when I weighed 340." Awesome! It's all expando when I lever my fat ass on it. I had to chuckle at that one myself. I probably should have given it a 5.15b/cX rating at the time but cams came out that year and took the bite out of those expandos. Quote
mountainmatt Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 Part of this conversation is to discuss the physics of climbing. Bone, tendons, and muscle can only go so far in climbing. You are not going to send 14s (with the exception of eviltradclimbguy) if you weigh well over 200 pounds. Quote
kevbone Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Damn. All this 5.14 talk, there must be some serious hard men in the house. Folks are talking out there ass on this thread. Quote
Chase Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 This is all crap! If you know how to climb then height does not matter at all!!! I am 5'8" and I guarantee that I can find a way to make the same reach that someone who is 6'0" can reach. Seriously, how often do you have to be 100% extended when you climb? And if you answered this by saying that you are 100% extended a lot then you need to learn some technique. Quote
tradclimbguy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Damn. All this 5.14 talk, there must be some serious hard men in the house. Folks are talking out there ass on this thread. More likely our Fat PIE Holes! Sometimes you just gotta liven it up a bit. Oh, and did I mention my wife is a super midget at 2'4" but also climbs just as hard as me in trad,sport and bouldering Quote
mountainmatt Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 More likely our Fat PIE Holes! Sometimes you just gotta liven it up a bit. Oh, and did I mention my wife is a super midget at 2'4" but also climbs just as hard as me in trad,sport and bouldering Your sex life must be very interesting... Quote
tradclimbguy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Just think "Expando" and "leverage". It all works! Quote
mountainmatt Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 Just think "Expando" and "leverage". It all works! Thanks for that, you just replaced the whale in my dreams. Quote
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