chucK Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 ...so long as you`re not a terrorist Well, and if you aren`t muslim... "Arar, now 36, was detained by U.S. authorities as he changed planes in New York on Sept. 26, 2002. He was held for questioning for 12 days, then flown by jet to Jordan and driven to Syria. He was beaten, forced to confess to having trained in Afghanistan -- where he never has been -- and then kept in a coffin-size dungeon for 10 months before he was released, the Canadian inquiry commission found. O'Connor concluded that "categorically there is no evidence" that Arar did anything wrong or was a security threat."" full story here (Washington Post) Quote
archenemy Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Not as ridiculous as the Pope apologizing for his comments on Islam. What a frightened little suck-up pussy. Quote
Alpinfox Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 I've learned to hate [muslims] All through my whole life If another war starts It's them we must fight To hate them and fear them To run and to hide And accept it all bravely With God on my side. But now we got weapons Of the chemical dust If fire them we're forced to Then fire them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God's on your side. Quote
olyclimber Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Let me tell ya about my Freedum Agenda Quote
JayB Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Not as ridiculous as the Pope apologizing for his comments on Islam. What a frightened little suck-up pussy. The response from the more vocal and demonstrative adherents of that religion have certainly shown how far off the mark such commentary was. Maybe - more than anything else - they just love irony. I'm just waiting for the day when there's a group of guys massed in the street, all set to chant and burn effigies, when all of a sudden the organizer says "Hey - uh - sorry to dissapoint everyone, but we've consulted the almighty himself and he informed us that actually, unlike the cartoon episode, which seriously pissed him off - this one is just way to trivial to get upset about. He said he'd get back to us if anything came up though, so keep the effigies handy and don't forget those slogans." Quote
archenemy Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Yeah, and I'd like to hear the Pope say, "Gee, sorry to the millions of women burned at the stake, treated like second class citizens, and blamed for the fall of man. We didn't really mean any harm..." Quote
olyclimber Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Not as ridiculous as the Pope apologizing for his comments on Islam. What a frightened little suck-up pussy. The response from the more vocal and demonstrative adherents of that religion have certainly shown how far off the mark such commentary was. Maybe - more than anything else - they just love irony. I'm just waiting for the day when there's a group of guys massed in the street, all set to chant and burn effigies, when all of a sudden the organizer says "Hey - uh - sorry to dissapoint everyone, but we've consulted the almighty himself and he informed us that actually, unlike the cartoon episode, which seriously pissed him off - this one is just way to trivial to get upset about. He said he'd get back to us if anything came up though, so keep the effigies handy and don't forget those slogans." God is way more efficient. He would just smite them all with a thunder bolt. Quote
JayB Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 "Yeah, and I'd like to hear the Pope say, "Gee, sorry to the millions of women* burned at the stake, treated like second class citizens, and blamed for the fall of man. We didn't really mean any harm..." If you want to go back to the pre-reformation days when assesing the moral standing of various actors in the present, you should also ask the citizens of Greater Scandanavia to collectively apologize for the marauding, raping, and pillaging that they visited on coastal Europe. Sure they'll say they've changed, that was hundreds of years ago, and there's little to nothing left of those tendencies evident in their societies anymore, but I hope you won't let them off the hook with that kind-of half-assed excusemongering. *Where'd you get this number. It's not that I don't think that the Catholic Church has anything to answer for, but this seems just a touch high. Quote
counterfeitfake Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Lots of people have spent lots of time killing lots of other people. It's not very productive to finger-point at past hipocrisy. Quote
Alpinfox Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Right. Let's get back to pointing fingers at our government that tortured an innocent Canadian citizen. Quote
counterfeitfake Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 That's not going to be productive either, but at least it's timely! Quote
cj001f Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Lots of people have spent lots of time killing lots of other people. It's not very productive to finger-point at past hipocrisy. But how else to we get brownie points other than slaying combatants in internet typing duels? Far better for society to award honours on the virtual battlefield than physical. Quote
JayB Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Right. Let's get back to pointing fingers at our government that tortured an innocent Canadian citizen. I think that this is the same guy. Someone que theme from "South Park - Bigger, Longer, & Uncut" Canadians Fault U.S. for Its Role in Torture Case Sign In to E-Mail This Print Reprints Save By IAN AUSTEN Published: September 19, 2006 OTTAWA, Sept. 18 — A government commission on Monday exonerated a Canadian computer engineer of any ties to terrorism and issued a scathing report that faulted Canada and the United States for his deportation four years ago to Syria, where he was imprisoned and tortured. The report on the engineer, Maher Arar, said American officials had apparently acted on inaccurate information from Canadian investigators and then misled Canadian authorities about their plans for Mr. Arar before transporting him to Syria. “I am able to say categorically that there is no evidence to indicate that Mr. Arar has committed any offense or that his activities constituted a threat to the security of Canada,” Justice Dennis R. O’Connor, head of the commission, said at a news conference. The report’s findings could reverberate heavily through the leadership of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, which handled the initial intelligence on Mr. Arar that led security officials in both Canada and the United States to assume he was a suspected Al Qaeda terrorist. " Quote
lI1|1! Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 elsewhere in the news - mr. penis pump got off [heh] (UPI) -- A felony charge against an Iraqi man who told security screeners at Chicago`s O`Hare Airport his penis pump was a bomb have been dropped. Mardin Amin, 29, was arrested Aug. 29 after screeners said when asked what an unusual object was in his hand luggage, he twice whispered 'bomb.' Amin tried to explain he was saying 'pump,' as in one for soccer balls, as he was too embarrassed to state its real purpose because his mother was standing nearby. Wednesday, Cook County prosecutors agreed to drop the charge against Amin, who faced up to three years in prison if convicted. Amin`s lawyer, Eileen O`Neill, told the Chicago Sun-Times there was compelling reason to drop the charge. 'Right from the get-go, it made no sense that a guy who has worked as a translator for (the U.S.) Army in Iraq wouldn`t know the consequences of saying, `I have a bomb,`' she said. Quote
archenemy Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 "Yeah, and I'd like to hear the Pope say, "Gee, sorry to the millions of women burned at the stake, treated like second class citizens, and blamed for the fall of man*. We didn't really mean any harm..." *Where'd you get this number. It's not that I don't think that the Catholic Church has anything to answer for, but this seems just a touch high. en totale Quote
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