EWolfe Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 How do you reconcile it with your need for adventure, exploration? How has it changed over the years? How is it new? Do you resent it? I do. Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 If you're one of the proud 200 million with cable television, then you have all kinds of imaginary fears and dangers, to contrast against an empty and meaningless life as consumer unit. It's best that you live inside your head, so that your body and proficiency can better serve the machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distel32 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Just exactly whose world are we talking about here....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griz Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 yeah, what the hell is your point? There are only a handful of countries that are too shitty for a semi adventurous american to travel to in the world. Iraq, sections of afghanistan, ect. Not many. Crawl out of your closet and enjoy the other 99% of the world that is no more dangerous than driving to work on Monday. I've enjoyed the tools on this board getting all worried over friends in Nepal because a couple policemen got killed at a random road block. Gimme a break. It's like getting all freaked out over some cop getting shot by some drugged out fucktard in LA while your friend was bar hopping and getting blown in a gay bar in San Francisco. It sucks for the cop but in the big picture...it doesn't change much. It's the same when some Palestinian kid gets shot throwing a rock at Israeli troops. There are a hell of allot greater statistical deaths in the US with Cop on kid/ kid on kid/ kid on cop yet it goes largely unnoticed here. If it is a politically related death then it gets press. Similar deaths that are not political do not get press. Bottom line is you live in one of the most dangerous countries in the world for experiencing a violent death yet you are afraid to leave our borders? Buy a plane ticket and you'll live longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distel32 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Griz, are you aiming this diatribe at me.....? hahaha I'll wait for your reply. but safety isn't only about violence and terrorism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griz Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 that's all for MisterE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distel32 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 thanks sweety, I feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimL Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 wow, who pissed you off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distel32 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Tim, it's been a long time.....hope things are going well for you! the intl. cc.com communitty reigns supreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimL Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) Yes, we reign supreme. Doing well. Finally got my EU papers. Enjoying climbing every weekend in Spain. Too much rock here. a lot of alpine too, but tons of rock. Sometime I'll get around to posting a TR. How are you doing? Congratz on the news of the baby! You nplan on staying in Asia or returing to to the States? Let me know if you have any questions about paperwork for taking your family to the States. I'm working right know on getting Elena paperwork for the States as well. Edited March 15, 2006 by TimL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Pelton's "The Worlds Most Dangerous Places" is a decent read for travellers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman_Clyde Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 you have all kinds of imaginary fears and dangers, to contrast against an empty and meaningless life as consumer unit. I think the imaginary fears and dangers are part of the strategy to entrap people into their empty and meaningless lives as consumer units. Chief among these is the fear that you don't measure up to your imaginary peer group. Just pick up any magazine and read the advertising. It's just as true for Outside as it is for Cosmo . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 If you've got the money anything and everything is on the table. Pretty fucking boring because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 you have all kinds of imaginary fears and dangers, to contrast against an empty and meaningless life as consumer unit. I think the imaginary fears and dangers are part of the strategy to entrap people into their empty and meaningless lives as consumer units. Chief among these is the fear that you don't measure up to your imaginary peer group. Just pick up any magazine and read the advertising. It's just as true for Outside as it is for Cosmo . Your imagination is not so orignal. But good to bring this point up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 At least Cosmo has sex tips for women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 At least Cosmo has sex tips for women. How did they work for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 They make the dentist's office that much more entertaining. I've already read the National Geographics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 They make the dentist's office that much more entertaining. I've already read the National Geographics. I wondered why the pages stuck together. Hey, doesn't this belong in Spray. I think I'm lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I think I'm lost... Self help section - 3rd row on your left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 so why does Cosmo have so many sex tips anyways? "57 ways to please your man in bed" WTF anyways. they could summarize it as "fuck him" and use the extra paper they save from not printing the other 56 to run another tampon ad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 so why does Cosmo have so many sex tips anyways? "57 ways to please your man in bed" WTF anyways. they could summarize it as "fuck him" and use the extra paper they save from not printing the other 56 to run another tampon ad? Good thinking. Run for a spot in the marketing dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Good thinking. Run for a spot in the marketing dept. I think he'd have more success at a mens magazine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 The Famous Snaffle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMo Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I'll play, and try to behave myself. At the time I started climbing: There were about 6 routes on El Cap (a number I did nothing to increase) Ascents of any of them were a big enough deal that successful parties got their names in the mags. The best maps of BC's Coast Mountains were a quarter inch to the mile with 500' contours.........and the cartographers had winged it a bit here and there. John Clarke had yet to begin his onslaught, and huge chunks of the range had never or only rarely felt a human footstep. Even in the Cascades one could, with a bit of research and scheming, find and stand atop some bump that had never been climbed..............not a major summit but an unclimbed one nonetheless. New route possibilities seemed limitless. Those sorts of realities lent an air of...Jesus, I'm lost for an exact word here...but how about maybe mystery or exploration to climbing and mountaineering. I think it's a lot harder to get those same feelings today. Maybe it doesn't touch very well on your safe world question but to have caught even the tail end of the never-to-be-repeated pioneering era was really very cool. I miss that sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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