if it ever gets cold.....

[Peter_Puget]

why hasn't this been done?

[wayne]

Persis right? There arent that many people willing to do that sort of thing

[Dru]

why is a picture of vertical snow in the ICE CLIMBING FORUM

[Peter_Puget]

Brrrrrrrrrr......

[JayB]

Wow - single digits in Seattle. Can't remember the last time things got that cold there. Maybe it's the Eve Dearborn Memorialesque window that people have been waiting for forever.

[Peter_Puget]

Jay - The layout on the link is goofy. The temps are for the location of the attached photo which happens to be pretty close to the route you mention.

[mattp]

I thought the pillar had been climbed -- years ago.

[dbb]

the north face of index looked in on Friday

[Peter_Puget]

Mattp -

 

Who climbed it? When?

 

I have never heard any of the obvious runnels had been climbed. From a PM sent by Alex, he is of the same opinion.

[mattp]

I don't know who or when.

 

I first heard about it in the mid-1980's some time, during a period when lots of climbers were not reporting first ascents. I think it may have been Steve Mascioli who pointed it out to me, but it could have been someone else. I don't think he (or whoever it was) claimed to have climbed it, and I don't think Steve was one who got into the unreported ascents thing, but I sort of recall somebody pointed at it and said one of the pillars, at least, had been climbed.

 

I don't have any real information one way or another. However, if somebody goes out and climbs it, and then reports a first ascent in the American Alpine Journal, we may see somebody else come forth.

[Peter_Puget]

Interesting. I went there once to check them out. I am not so sure I would call them "pillars". Although if I remember correctly the bottom is fairly steep. I would think that any FA especially in the early 80s would be a fairly significant ascent.

[Peter_Puget]

From the Seattle Times website 1/13/06:

 

"this will be the coldest air we've seen in the season and it could well be the coldest air we've seen in a decade"

[jmace]

WOW, this is awesome

[mattp]

Maybe we should have a thread for speculating about who might have done the route which may exist?

 

I know that Bill Sumner lived in Index for a number of years and that, for example, he put up several lines on Mt. Index that were not reported, though I don't think he did so much on steep ice as more mountaineering snow and ice perhaps. I also know that Jack Lewis did quite a lot of ice climbing in those years, and at least some of it went un-reported. And there were others - look at the confusion regarding the Spindrift Couloir and other routes on Big Four Mountain that arose because climbs were not fully documented.

 

"Persis Pillar" is the named I knew for these climbs

[Peter_Puget]

Even better would be the suggestion you made in your first post:

if somebody goes out and climbs it, and then reports a first ascent in the American Alpine Journal, we may see somebody else come forth.

[lancegranite]

It must have been 96-97?, the year that Bridal Veil falls completely froze solid, that thing was fully formed, and there was 2000 foot ice climbs in Anderson Creek drainage. That's the only time that I have saw that thing touch down....

[Peter_Puget]

Matt is talking way earlier than that. I do not believe that they have been climbed but I could be wrong.

[Distel32]

leejames and I did the ridge circa february 2003, BWAP!

 

haha

 

but agreed it does look cool.