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my brother and I go leashless all the time with our quarks, they work great!!! We both have lead 4+ with out any problem, now on a long alpine route such as ham and eggs, or shaken not stired I would use the leashes. I have used John's Ergos dry tooling and they are nice!! I would say to get the ergos / nomic if you want to do more sport ice climbing, but grab leashes for the long alpine climbs. I have also used my quarks for DT and they work fine.

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What are you planning on (alpine, sport mixed, etc etc)?

 

What do you own currently?

 

Have you swung them both? Have you tried the Nomic or other leashless tools yet?

 

I think Daniel summed it up well thumbs_up.gif

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The main disadvantage is that unlike the Nomic or Ergo or whatever you are limited to one hand position on the tool whereas with the Ergo or Nomic you have two grips.

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All - thanks for the responses. They've all been very helpul.

 

Up til now, I've rented/borrowed tools, and I've only swung leashless (Quarks, Aztars, Cobras). I came across a good deal on the Quarks, and it was too good to pass up.

 

Sport climbing isn't in my future. I'll be using them for waterfall and mixed climbing.

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They kick ass.

Way better swing than any of the companies ergo style tools. If your'e gonna climb big drips leashless, they are the way to go.

I put skateboard grip tape above the orange grip to facilitate a high grip.

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