mneagle Posted May 10, 2001 Share Posted May 10, 2001 After a great trip to Snow Creek Wall, I returned to the parking lot for a moderately unpleasant encounter w/ officer friendly who handed me a $50 ticket for not having a Northwest Trail Pass. I have gotten a few of those "reminder to buy a season pass" envolopes on my windshield, but I was told by others that tickets can't be enforced and that court outcomes have so far been in favor of the ticketed. Does anyone know exactly what the legal status of trail passes is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted May 10, 2001 Share Posted May 10, 2001 it is a demo fee project. you not buying one of those passes is your no vote for the demo fee project. go tell them to f$%k themselves. well you probably shouldn't do that, but the deforrest service is not up front or truthful about the whole situation. if you challenge that you should win. you already own the land. it is called double jepoardy, last time i remember we hucked a bunch of dru's relatives tea into the sea for that bullshit. there are many links and conversations about this subject on the site do some searching. power to the people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Posted May 10, 2001 Share Posted May 10, 2001 yes. Piss on the USFS and this "demo" project. They are using deception to get their expenses paid for by climbers and wilderness users. If you get a court date, I understand that you can blow off the court appearance as well, for the judge will see that the ticket is unenforceable and your appearance is NOT required. I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted May 10, 2001 Share Posted May 10, 2001 Urge to kill...rising......rising.....rising! Vegetablebelay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted May 10, 2001 Share Posted May 10, 2001 Yeah baby. You gotta pay it unless you were parked over 1/4 mile away. Unless you have another way of getting out of it. If the ranger does not show up in court which is common. Was it Larry Inhout? He hardly shows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted May 10, 2001 Share Posted May 10, 2001 http://www.halcyon.com/rdpayne/nccc-news-0200.html#6 http://www.freeourforests.org/ Somewhere on this website there is a letter you can post on your car that says you are not engaging in recreation and thus can't be fined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted May 10, 2001 Share Posted May 10, 2001 Hmmmm.. I wonder about my rights to avoid paying that stuff, which is all bullshit anyways, as a foreign visitor. Having already acquired a collection of "citations" and "warnings" for not paying the Bivi Site fee at Smith, and sleeping in the wrong sites at Leavenworth without paying, I worry that they're going to start turning me around at the border? The searches are already a bit much. Why can't they have some cute girls in uniforms doing the strip search instead of some failed ex-cop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
num1mc Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 I think W is very very wrong about blowing off the court date. If you contest the ticket, and do not reach an agreement with the prosectuter, you must appear in court. The judge may agree that it is an unenforceable law, but he will take a dim view of any defendant who does not appear in his court. A failure to appear will result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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