Thinker Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 btw, if anyone wants to form an opinion of the show based on a first hand experience it starts at 3pm Pacific Time and one can even listen online at http://www.kqbz.com/ some unoffically archived shows can be found at http://leykisonline.com, including the famous Enumclaw Bestiality show dated 7/18/05. It does take some time for the guy to get you a password. I have a 6MB MP3 copy of the Enumclaw show I'd be happy to share...PM me your email address. Or maybe someone with a website or FTP could post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 it's not reactionary girlfriend....it's about playing the offense vs. defense. If you were reactionary...you'd be the one pissed off that you just got played. Offense..you play! Don't hate the pla'ya, hate the game!! perhaps this is the reason you think all guys are "jerks"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 it's not reactionary girlfriend....it's about playing the offense vs. defense. If you were reactionary...you'd be the one pissed off that you just got played. Offense..you play! Don't hate the pla'ya, hate the game!! I just don't agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 oh fuck-- this has just crossed over from global topic to personal issues. icky! i'm done. the point seems obvious to me but i see no point in spending my time trying to convince the ostriches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitergal Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 what?? it's ok for the guys to play..but when a women does it's a bad thing?? C'mon now. I've had my turns at men that were sweethearts, had a heart, etc. They're most of my best friends. Guys like them...are never single. So I shall play with the heartless cruel men, until I find one with a heart...that's single!! How/why is that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitergal Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 btw, if anyone wants to form an opinion of the show based on a first hand experience it starts at 3pm Pacific Time and one can even listen online at http://www.kqbz.com/ some unoffically archived shows can be found at http://leykisonline.com, including the famous Enumclaw Bestiality show dated 7/18/05. It does take some time for the guy to get you a password. I have a 6MB MP3 copy of the Enumclaw show I'd be happy to share...PM me your email address. Or maybe someone with a website or FTP could post it. I definately want to hear the enumclaw one! CBS called me up HOWLING last night..so I have to hear it!! Can someone post this somewhere?? PLEEEEZZZ!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 you play with them, and as you yourself know, people don't like getting played with/used... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I'd beat the tar out of my sons if i find out that they treated a woman that way...even if i'm 70 when they are grown... This. This is what teaches men that using the threat of violence is the way to force others to act as if they believe what you believe. I think that is wrong. Something in my gut (besides the Krispee Kreme I just ate) tell me this is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mec Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 no fair, you just ate a krispee kreme. I'm jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 (edited) I think there is some hyperbole that you are missing...i've (whoops, left out never) smacked my children...BUT, i will be extremely disappointed and they will know it if they treat someone that way...likely, they'd know better than to let me find out... Edited August 24, 2005 by RuMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 what?? it's ok for the guys to play..but when a women does it's a bad thing?? C'mon now. I've had my turns at men that were sweethearts, had a heart, etc. They're most of my best friends. Guys like them...are never single. So I shall play with the heartless cruel men, until I find one with a heart...that's single!! How/why is that bad? Because this is not a game. These are human beings. I somehow think (maybe I am totally wrong here...) that if I refuse to play, then guys will only be left to play with themselves. And I don't care if a guy is single, gay, married, whatever. I am interested in finding people who are unafraid to love and to show that they do, honestly, have heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I think there is some hyperbole that you are missing...i've smacked my children...BUT, i will be extremely disappointed and they will know it if they treat someone that way...likely, they'd know better than to let me find out... Strangely, I don't even think it is the violence itself so much as the pervasive threat of violence that permeates our society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 what?? it's ok for the guys to play..but when a women does it's a bad thing?? C'mon now. I've had my turns at men that were sweethearts, had a heart, etc. They're most of my best friends. Guys like them...are never single. So I shall play with the heartless cruel men, until I find one with a heart...that's single!! How/why is that bad? Because this is not a game. These are human beings. I somehow think (maybe I am totally wrong here...) that if I refuse to play, then guys will only be left to play with themselves. And I don't care if a guy is single, gay, married, whatever. I am interested in finding people who are unafraid to love and to show that they do, honestly, have heart. i'm afraid you're missing a key point about guys. guys like it when they get to play with themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 The definition of a jerk is someone who is solely concerned with his own welfare to the exclusion of other. In other words the opposite of an altruist. Clearly not all men are jerks, although almost all men are jerks at one time or another. Women who expect altruistic behavior all the time from men are destined to be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitergal Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 LIFE IS A GAME ARCH!! Play it! Love it! Live it! The more you play, the more fun you have!! My way of living anyways?! Maybe it's wrong..but if I had to sit around and wait for a "loving, caring" thing to happen...I'd go insane. I don't have the patience for that crap. Play life, and have fun at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I think there is some hyperbole that you are missing...i've smacked my children...BUT, i will be extremely disappointed and they will know it if they treat someone that way...likely, they'd know better than to let me find out... Strangely, I don't even think it is the violence itself so much as the pervasive threat of violence that permeates our society. Please see my edit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 The definition of a jerk is someone who is solely concerned with his own welfare to the exclusion of other. In other words the opposite of an altruist. Clearly not all men are jerks, although almost all men are jerks at one time or another. Women who expect altruistic behavior all the time from men are destined to be disappointed. These sound like extremes to me. One does not have to be altruistic to be kind, loving, and respectful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 LIFE IS A GAME ARCH!! Play it! Love it! Live it! The more you play, the more fun you have!! My way of living anyways?! Maybe it's wrong..but if I had to sit around and wait for a "loving, caring" thing to happen...I'd go insane. I don't have the patience for that crap. Play life, and have fun at it! you call it "crap" and then bitch that you can't find anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I think there is some hyperbole that you are missing...i've smacked my children...BUT, i will be extremely disappointed and they will know it if they treat someone that way...likely, they'd know better than to let me find out... Strangely, I don't even think it is the violence itself so much as the pervasive threat of violence that permeates our society. Please see my edit... Please reread my statement above. It stands the same regardless of your parenting techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitergal Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 patience...The crap I'm referring to is the sitting around and waiting and patience crap. I don't have patience. It's the gene missing from my gene pool....and i admit it's a huge flaw of mine!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 patience...The crap I'm referring to is the sitting around and waiting and patience crap. I don't have patience. It's the gene missing from my gene pool....and i admit it's a huge flaw of mine!! I don't advocate waiting for others to evolve to fit your needs. I do advocate evoking what I believe must exist in all people--the ability to be loving, forgiving, kind, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 your immediate needs will change. will you have the patience to live with the other, when theirs do too? somebody is not experienced here. but that is life, the experience and learning, the mistakes. even when someone warns you. careful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 somebody is not experienced here. but that is life, the experience and learning, the mistakes. even when someone warns you. careful! Before I respond, is this meant for me? If so, could you flesh this out a bit. I think I must have misunderstood you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitergal Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 yeah..I wasn't sure if it was you or me...but please...I need clarification as well if it's aimed at me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 yeah..I wasn't sure if it was you or me...but please...I need clarification as well if it's aimed at me!! I don't want to seem lame here, but do you see what I mean about the undercurrent of violence? When you use the worn "aimed" it implies a weapon. I know that probably sounds nitpicky psychobably, but I can't help but think that its possible that our words really reveal more about what we are thinking than we even realize they do. Maybe I am just losing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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