fern Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Anybody climbed with these? Have opinion on how they feel compared to any other tools out there? In particular they have a slightly longer shaft than most other similar tools. Does this make them unwieldy? Is the extra length even noticeable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 The alp wing's extra length is noticeable when compared to real (BD) tools. Dunno about the tech wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted January 27, 2004 Author Share Posted January 27, 2004 wow ... not a popular tool it would seem ... no wonder they are on sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric8 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 The alp wing's extra length is noticable when compared to real (BD) tools. Dunno about the tech wing. Paul how many times have you used alp wings? I haven't used bd tools very often but haven't noticed the difference, its 3cm. Fern I have alp wings like them and wish I had money for tech wings too but don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 i haven't used the tech wings, but i use the top wings and i love them. yum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pu Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Tech wings are the best of show. IF you actually find them on sale i would buy them. I have climbed with quarks, cobras, machines, most any major brand tool. Tech's are by far my favorite. They will work for alpine just fine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammut_rep Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Fern, The Tech Wings have the same geometry as their predecessors, the Light Machines. Meaning, that the position of the grip, the angle of the head, and the amount of clearance are the same. The only real differences are the shape of the shaft and the new head design. The shaft of the Tech Wing has a smooth curve to give you clearance, where the old Light Machine had a sharp bend in the middle of the shaft. The new forged head will take the same components as the old Light Machine but has a bit more weight to it. Before I started climbing on Machines and Tech Wings, I climbed on Cobras. I think that the Tech Wings climb a lot like Cobras, but with more clearance than the Cobras. The grip is a bit narrower than BD grips so it fits more hand sizes. Also, one of the biggest things Grivel tools have going for them is their forged picks which are super tough. I haven't found another pick that can take a beating like the Grivel picks. Keep in mind that I'm a rep for Grivel North America, but I've climbed on a lot of BD, Charlet Moser, and other tools in the past. The Tech Wings and Top Wings will be replaced by two new leashless tools in the Fall. Not because they are inferior, but new designs, trends, and/or climbing styles require changes from time to time. So, if you want to pick up a set do it soon. If you can find them on sale, great. If you want to PM me for more info, feel free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 thanks for the info. I have old style (silver) Rambos now. I haven't climbed much with BD tools. One thing about the Grivel grips. The so-called ergonomic grip on the Tech Wings (and the yellow Rambos) has a bump which I suppose is meant to fit between the index and middle finger, which means that despite the narrow grip the tools are designed for a specific (large) hand size. My index finger sits right on that bump when I rest my pinky on the ledge at the end of the shaft. what's underneath the grip? Would it be possible to strip it off and put on regular unformed grip like on the Top Wing? what's with this IF I find them on sale?? I already did, that's why I brought the topic up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammut_rep Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Sorry. I forgot about your second post. As far as I know, you should be able to strip off the grip of the Tech Wings, but if you did that, then essentially they would become the same thing as the Top Wings with leashes. The only difference would be the cradle for your hand at the end of the shaft versus the pinky rest on the Tech Wings. The trigger for your index finger could be removed if you didn't want to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 your index finger could be removed if you didn't want to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mconnell Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 (edited) If you want to get a pair of tech wings on sale, go to http://www.hmmountaineering.com and email Michelle. She's had a pair on the wall since I started working there over a year ago. They are on sale, but I don't recall the price. It might be on the web site. She doesn't really do web sales, so you will have to call her and give her a credit card and pay shipping. Edited November 4, 2004 by mconnell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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