ChickenShiite911 Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 "To a starving man, God can only appear in the form of bread." -- Mahatma Gandhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I don't dismiss random executions as 2-bit, they are disturbing and disgusting. I dismiss 2nd hand ancedotes that are over 20 years old as 2-bit. Â well it happened more than 20 years ago... so i dont know what you want me to do about it. are you denying this happened? 50 MILLION times over? If you would like her e-mail adress you are welcome to it, but you must speak russian or lithuanian. Her grandpa is gone. They do not know where he is. That is not two bit. If you really believe what you are saying you are a little more human than those that comitted these acts. I am trying not to hate you, but you give me little recourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 well it happened more than 20 years ago... so i dont know what you want me to do about it. are you denying this happened? They do not know where he is. That is not two bit. If you really believe what you are saying you are a little more human than those that comitted these acts. I am trying not to hate you, but you give me little recourse. Scott- Oral histories, particularly family related, are often incomplete, and slightly distorted. The stories usually distort over time. I'm not denying that her father disapeared - millions did. Stories such as hers are withing the realm of truth. Chill out man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 well it happened more than 20 years ago... so i dont know what you want me to do about it. are you denying this happened? They do not know where he is. That is not two bit. If you really believe what you are saying you are a little more human than those that comitted these acts. I am trying not to hate you, but you give me little recourse. Scott- Oral histories, particularly family related, are often incomplete, and slightly distorted. The stories usually distort over time. I'm not denying that her father disapeared - millions did. Stories such as hers are withing the realm of truth. Chill out man. Â dont tell me to chill out. i am not gonna let you back pedal and say that her story was two bit, and that literacy was justification for genocide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberdinka Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I just read through all three pages of this crap and no one has yet told us HOW WAS THE MOON LANDING FAKED? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 I just read through all three pages of this crap and no one has yet told us HOW WAS THE MOON LANDING FAKED? You'll have to ask Thinker about that. He was the one who mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinker Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Here is a fairly extensive list of websites that discuss the potential hoax. Â Here is a condensed version. Â I'm not saying I believe it, nor that I disbelieve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberdinka Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Communism Glad to see that the discussion is back on track. I'm not particularly convinced by those arguments though, The "C" rock is easly explained by a hair in the reimaging process and a lack of stars seems easily attributed due to limitations in the exposure ranges of film, if you're photographing bright objects like silvery astronauts at close range you wouldn't pick up much dimmer objects in the background without blowing out the foreground. Â Curious as to why we never ever went back. Did the aliens inhabiting secret bases on the dark side of the moon scare us off? Interested also in seeing if the Martians destroy our latest probe as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Spirit has been alowed to land because the Martians living in the Cydonian pyramid complex previously sterilized Gusev crater. It will detect NOTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberdinka Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Dru's Smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 face on mars : Â smiley face crater: Â happy face lake on Earth: Â Who are these sinister Planet Shapers who use Geographic features as emoticons? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 Here is a fairly extensive list of websites that discuss the potential hoax. Here is a condensed version.  I'm not saying I believe it, nor that I disbelieve it. "On the moon, there is only one light source, the sun. This is a shot of Buzz Aldrin and Neal Armstrong planting the US flag on the moon. If the sun is the only light source used by NASA on the moon, Aldrins shadow A shadows should not be so much longer than Armstrong's " If Aldrin is standing on a hummock above Armstrong, and his shadow is cast upon a down slope, it will longer than Armstrong's, especially if the latter's shadow is cast upon an up slope.  "If you will look at area B you will notice a shadow cast across Buzz Aldrin's space suit. Once again, if the Sun is the only light source used on the moon, this shadow would have been MUCH darker."  It's called "flash photography". They had a remote flash positioned behind and to the right. So what?  "In this picture, taken from the LEM, you can see at least two abnormalities. In section E you see an abnormal shadow on the moon's surface. NASA claims that this shadow is the shadow cast by the Lunar Module, but on earth, even when aircraft is flying low to the ground, it does not produce such a clearly defined shadow."  The picture was not taken on Earth. It was taken on the Moon where there is no atmoshphere. Hello!  "OK, here's the kicker... if you will look at section 3 you will notice there are no stars in the sky. In fact, you will never see any stars in any NASA Moon photographs, or hear an astronaut mention anything about the glorious stars that are visible when out of the earths atmosphere".  Go take a flash picture outside at night and tell me if you see stars in the photograph. The light in the foreground is so much brighter, it swamps out the starts.  I won't go on. His arguments are all half-baked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 face on mars : Do you mean this face on Mars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 yes - they obviously started to disassemble it after 1976 and finished before 1998! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 That's even worse than what the Taliban did to the giant Buddha statues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I believe it syncs up nicely with the disassembly of Michael Jackson's face. The 1998 photo clearly emulates the hideous nature of the post "Bad" era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 but what about THIS???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctorb Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Another bunch of dorks having the same dork conversation on another stupid BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctorb Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Moon Hoax Debunked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 and that literacy was justification for genocide. Good - because I never said that. In fact in my previous post, that you don't seem to be able to read, I said literacy was a slight positive, and genocide a massive negative (slight != massive) (slight <<<< massive) Â Getting so enflamed over a 20 year old oral story with no documentation (and if the Soviets did anything well, it was beauracracy) is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Then whqat are you saying? Yeah I dont have documentation because I would have to sort through 50 million murders to find the right one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberdinka Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Will you two please stay on topic here! We're talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 We need to split this into two threads: the "Pogrom" thread, and the "Moon Landing Hoax" thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 From Associated Press:Â The Poincare Conjecture is a highly abstract problem that only the most gifted math wizards love and truly understand. Â ie - NERDS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 Bronco, what is your point? Those guys are sort of like the poets of the math world. It takes all kinds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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