Beck Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 templates not to true size, downloaded over the internet, will be a very inefficient way to mount ski bindings. It is general consensus in the ski shops that templates suck. for home mounts, simply: take ski, find chord center. extrapolate binding position on ski. use awl or center punch to place starter marks. drill with stopper. Don't forget to tap thry metal top sheets. And good luck. but don't even try to use a missized template unless you are an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoboy Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 Any one smart enough to mount there own bindings will probably be smart enough to figure out how to use the templates as posted. In case they are not, I will give a hint.... there are dimensions.... Please Beck, can you tell us, without looking at the template, how far ahead of chord center the screw holes for a G3 Targa binding go? I can see why ski shops might think templates suck, they have access to jigs. Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 Beck is an expert skier mostly in his mind. Yes you can misuse templates, but you can also misuse Beck's simple instructions. Jigs are the shit, but who's going to fork out the dough for something you will use once every 3 to 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 AlpineK said: Beck is an expert skier mostly in his mind. Yes you can misuse templates, but you can also misuse Beck's simple instructions. Jigs are the shit, but who's going to fork out the dough for something you will use once every 3 to 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 18, 2003 Author Share Posted October 18, 2003 nowhere have I said expert skier, but thanks for the compliment, alpine k... you are the best skiieer in the wurld, boss... But i have been skiing since 1975. and mounted my first pair of ski bindings in the seventies as well. I cut tele turns in 1982 and sold my alpine boards in 1984 (partly to finance a trip to Lake Placid for the winter, but that's another story) and have never looked back at fixed heels. So maybe that's why I'm not an "expert" and I have no claim to such. I skied in the American West in 1986 when I lived in Nevada for a couple of years, and have been skiing the NW for a decade. I've always mounted my own bindings. well, since 1978 or so. and you, cracked, you youngster, how many years have you even been doing this kind of stuff? your website says, like four or five years? you might need to use a template. chord center on the riser for a G3, just line em all up and scribe the mark. easy as pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 Beck, I'm confused, how would you mount a Fritschi with your instructions? Seems like the heel lever would flop around while you're trying to center it. I really started skiing this spring. But what the fuck does that have to do anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 I'd be interested to see Beck try and mount Dynafit bindings using his simple instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 AlpineK said: I'd be interested to see Beck try and mount Dynafit bindings using his simple instructions. He only skis on 3pins, cause leather, skinny skis, and retro bindings give so much soul to the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Beck said: But i have been skiing since 1975. I skied in the American West in 1986 when I lived in Nevada for a couple of years, and have been skiing the NW for a decade. Sorry dude, these credentials don't really set you apart. Try to understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 marylou said: Beck said: But i have been skiing since 1975. I skied in the American West in 1986 when I lived in Nevada for a couple of years, and have been skiing the NW for a decade. Sorry dude, these credentials don't really set you apart. Try to understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoboy Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Beck said:chord center on the riser for a G3, just line em all up and scribe the mark. easy as pie. Must be those newfangled G3s, coz mine don't have any such mark on the riser. I guess you are the expert though, you have three years more ski experience than me. Oh, I see you've skied alpine too! Wow, that does me in, I never really got into that shit, too technical for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 take chainsaw cut off ski in front of toe cut off ski behind heel throw ski away put crampons on go climbing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_cock Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Beck said: nowhere have I said expert skier, but thanks for the compliment, alpine k... you are the best skiieer in the wurld, boss... But i have been skiing since 1975. and mounted my first pair of ski bindings in the seventies as well. I cut tele turns in 1982 and sold my alpine boards in 1984 (partly to finance a trip to Lake Placid for the winter, but that's another story) and have never looked back at fixed heels. So maybe that's why I'm not an "expert" and I have no claim to such. I skied in the American West in 1986 when I lived in Nevada for a couple of years, and have been skiing the NW for a decade. I've always mounted my own bindings. well, since 1978 or so. and you, cracked, you youngster, how many years have you even been doing this kind of stuff? your website says, like four or five years? you might need to use a template. chord center on the riser for a G3, just line em all up and scribe the mark. easy as pie. WOW, BECK! You must have really perfected the "praying mantis" by now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 19, 2003 Author Share Posted October 19, 2003 ...i'm no expert nor unique, i know that. I started this info as an ajunct to the template thread. you don't need templates to mount bindings, and espically not missized templates downloaded off the internet. And snoboy, it's easy to make the mark on your G3 shim. Extrapolate. This post was to get cc.commers to think outside the box of what the manufacturer tells you how to do things. i like skiing, everyone should ski more. I ski lots. i used to ski to school where i grew up. we all cross country skied. there were ski tracks all over town. Grandmas skiied to the store if it was nasty out. people would ski on their lunch hour, down to the tavern. this doesn't make me better than anyone else, i'm just telling it like it is about the skiing, because i'm proud of how i grew up. this doesn't make me an expert, it makes me an old ski fart. mmm, skiing.... I'll mount anyone's bindings for ten bucks and a beer! Free if you let me mount them on my skis! give all unwanted telemark equipment to Beck... he will sacrifice it to the mountain god..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 Make that ten bucks, a beer and listen to my drivel for an hour.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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