Sol Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Cruised over to Index yesterday with my bro ty to try out a litttle aiding on the upper town wall. Got to the base of the jolly green dragon a little after 10 in the am. I aided up the first 5.11 pitch, loving my first ever few cam hook moves. Ty lead the second C2 pitch, thuroughly enjoying himself in a nice little seam. After following I lead the third pitch which in our guide book was A2. my question, because I lead this pitch clean, is it still A2 because I clipped a shady knifeblade, and a bolt, or does the rating go up because we climbed it clean (which I know from this website is the norm on this route). Definetly some thought provoking pro for a short bit (for my rookie aid ass). We stopped after this pitch because it was starting to get dark, rapped down, hiked out, drank beer. In all it was an awesome day for us, litttle rain, little sun, lots of rainbows, and was the first real aiding we had done besides City Park solo, and the bolt ladder on Monkey face. I want to go back and finish the route. the fourth pitch is given an A3 rating in the guide I have, what's the clean rating, and is it much more intense than the 3rd pitch? thanks for any info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Here is a fairly recent topo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 here's fairly recent instructions  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyclimb Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 MisterE said: here's fairly recent instructions  Same can be done with rubbing alchohol. Creates a chemical reaction causing the THC to drop from the buds/clipping creating HASH. Put it in the sun, and let the alchohol break down, and you have non-liquified goodness. Atleast thats what i read somewhere . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 I think the thid pitch is the crux. The 4th is alot of fun and worth going back for, only easy C2. The 5th is kind of bullshit and nothing great. Â That fixed pin on the 3rd is exiting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 skyclimb said: MisterE said: here's fairly recent instructions  Same can be done with rubbing alchohol. Creates a chemical reaction causing the THC to drop from the buds/clipping creating HASH. Put it in the sun, and let the alchohol break down, and you have non-liquified goodness. Atleast thats what i read somewhere .  LOL  Shouldn't this be IN THE NEW THC EXTRACTION FORUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Back on the subject, so itdoesn't get moved. Â Wouldn't that be C2 the way you did it? Â Sometimes the clean rating is a bit higher than the aid rating, due to the additional bag 'o tricks, and poential sketchiness. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texplorer Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Mister E is correct about a slightly higher C rating for routes. That being said, over time aid routes get easier so what was A2 in your book might be C2 now. Â If you don't hammer anything the route went clean for you. That includes clipping any fixed gear ie nuts, pins, copperheads,etc. Hand placing pins is also considered clean but the second you use anything to bang into the rock it is not clean aid anymore -ie you can't use that big hex to hammer either). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Posted October 15, 2003 Author Share Posted October 15, 2003 Word, stoked on aiding, can't wait to get back on route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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