j_b Posted October 1, 2003 Author Posted October 1, 2003 JayB said: Question: “What Color is the sky” Answer: “Blue.” if this is indeed your preferred analogy to describe the iraq situation, it is no wonder we have a problem communicating. Quote
cracked Posted October 2, 2003 Posted October 2, 2003 JayB said: Question: “What Color is the sky” Answer: “Blue.” j_b’s answer: “yu cant anser the question without first considering the manner in which the wests epistemic colonialism subjugatd and devalued the diverse and heterodox notions of color in the indigenous peoples who had their own distinct notions of the physical world and the phenomena they observed within ti. the very question assumes a normative uniformity in visual perception that shows how the subtle bias of the dominant cultural hegemons has crept into the standard discourse concerning even the most elemental phenomena. legitimizing such a question in the absence of a preliminary discourse concerning responsibility for the cognitive holocaust which the west inflicted upon the subjugated peoples and their pre-colonical standards of optical norms would represent a wholesale capitulation before and abasement to the interest of the pigmento-industrial complex which chomsky has so deftly indicted in his works outlining their efforts to manufacture a false, consumerist consensus regarding the normative standards that underlie the conventional notions and definitions of what constitutes 'Color' "etc, etc, etc.... Quote
jon Posted October 2, 2003 Posted October 2, 2003 I suggest all of you people stop taking everything you read and hear on CNN for face value, and actually talk to someone who has been over there. It is clearly obvious that the spin on things we get from the media is much different then the reality over there. For instance how there has been no power or water or whatever, that has been a problem way before we invaded. Iraq has only one source of power, one single dam. The thing with the unemployed Iraqis rioting because they can't find work is a bunch of nonsense, they don't want to work. We are throwing money at them, offering them jobs, and while not refusing to do it don't really make much of an effort to make money. Case in point, there have been problems with people cutting the power lines heading into the major cities. We are paying the Iraqis to go fix them, and a lot of money. But instead of them going and looking for broken lines themselves, we have to have Blackhawks constantly monitoring the lines and reporting them in. Shit if people would pay me a ton of money to fix power lines I'd be out there cutting the shit. Quote
allthumbs Posted October 2, 2003 Posted October 2, 2003 Jon just made the first sensible post in weeks. Right on Jon Quote
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