Dru Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 grivel wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 iain said: I assume you have all steel carabiners as well then, as they are more durable? Biners aren't tool heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 all I was saying is if it's way past spec, it's like arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It just doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 iain said: all I was saying is if it's way past spec, it's like arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It just doesn't matter. Not true, it isn't 'way past spec'. I've heard many people bitch about smacking the heads of their Charlet tools and dinging them to the point that they can't replace the picks. And that would suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 i've heard of many people trying to sell their BD tools and bitching about them cause BD ice tools are so suck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dru said: i've heard of many people trying to sell their BD tools and bitching about them cause BD ice tools are so suck... How are they so suck?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 how are they suck details here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 I agree that there are many really good tools on the market these days, and almost all of them will work quite well. However, to say that BD tools are more durable is just plain comical. BD is well known to put out far more unsafe (eventually recalled) gear than almost all other companies. Some of the Rage shafts came apart. I have a friend who was soloing once when the head of his Black Prophet came off the shaft! BD makes some really good stuff, but reliability is definitely not their strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Colin said: I agree that there are many really good tools on the market these days, and almost all of them will work quite well. However, to say that BD tools are more durable is just plain comical. BD is well known to put out far more unsafe (eventually recalled) gear than almost all other companies. Some of the Rage shafts came apart. I have a friend who was soloing once when the head of his Black Prophet came off the shaft! BD makes some really good stuff, but reliability is definitely not their strength. Nooo, I was talking about the durability of the HEADS of the tools. I thought you climb on Cobras, Colin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mer Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dru said: i've heard of many people trying to sell their BD tools and bitching about them cause BD ice tools are so suck... Dru's right, I'm going to sell my Rages and climb with a giant squid in each hand. Might have to change my leashes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 but that's Octopus dofleini! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 I do climb on Cobras, and they have been great tools. But, like anything that I buy made by BD, I waited until they had been out a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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