erik

My intitial post didn't specify where at Index. This winter, and they weren't. I'm not trying to be snide or argue. Just looking for a straight answer. "Use trees" seemed a tad to general and dismissive. werd my bad on the reading comprehension...9 hours at work and still going! ugh! and really freeclimb's advice is the way to go!!!

TIM done my fair share, but with my attention span i am better suited to free climb. and i always have an opinion. and i don't aid solo crag.

Yeah... like those at the base of the Dark Crystal...or the base of the Waterway area...right, I'll use those. HEY SCOTT, IN YOUR INTIAL POST YOU MENTIONED THE LOWER WALL AND THAT IS THE ANSWER HE GAVE YOU. NO NEED TO BE SNIDE. AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WERE OUT THERE?? THOSE SNIDE TREES MAY BE BIGGER....... BUT WHO KNOWS?!

NEWSTIPS: HERE IS A PIC OF THE N FACE OF BIG4 DO A SEARCH, THERE IS TONS OF INFO ON THIS THING.

like where exactly?? i would think that most of those pins would be oriantated in a weird diro. and at the lower town, there is something "CLEAN" that can be used for all the pitches. and i doubt that you could not find another suitable placement other then pins.

pretty good josh, but overall pack weight includes rock gear and such too!!!!! i have marmot driclim bag tarp 1/2 a foamy ti cup/pot lil msr stove fuel can downy coat balacava gloves princeton-tec lamp 20 neutrino biners 8 assorted slings 4 cams 6 stoppers 3 lockers ti ice axe alum poons some sketchy ropes this is for standard summer casecade route under .9

Pass on the secrets, dude. How do you get down to a 15lb overnight pack? who doesnt have a 15lbs overnight technical climbing setup?? i've got two! never will you catch this fat kid hikin big loads!! just plain dumb! unless of course for chivilrous reasons

a six pack!

hahahaha sounds like fun!? whats the overall objective? like in the end what are you training for?

JUST KIDDING VIKTOR MENTIONS IT IN HIS GUIDEBOOK, GOOD PLACE TO START! TONS OF BOULDERS, SO JUST GO GET EM!

YUP IT IS GREAT!!

it could be like a conditioning hike and stuff. i have known people to train for future climbs, by hiking and stuff! have fun kidz!

the boulders in the trees still have some snow. higher on the slope the better. tummwater canyon still has more snow. most of the swiftwaters still have snow around them mtn home rd still has tons of snow. might be a tad early for most boulders. mad meadows should have had some melt out by now!

DATS WHAT I WAS WONDERING

will this be a good time to comfortize pockets and holds?

WHATCA GONNA DO WITH THE WIFE NOW?

SAVE IT TO YOUR HARD DRIVE AND THEN UPLOAD IT TO CC.COM THAT OR EMAIL IT TO ME AND I WILL DO IT!

You, me and the rest of the skinny folks'll be walkin' a bit funny by the end. SPECIALED IS SKINNEY THO I THINK HE HAS LIKE AN .11D A4 LIVER!

yes and yes and it adds more weight

i disagree with chuck. certainly the yellow alien is a choice piece. but stoppers will cover that end until you can buy more. go with the #2 gold camalot. the larger size will be much appreciated! then again #2 gold camalots are sink hand jams, and sinker hand jams are equal to a belay!!

don't forget the alpine bong!

uhhh chuck america is going to nuke the world, niceities at this point are pointless!