tivoli_mike

O would agree about getting into some volunteer type activities. I was a Red Cross volunteer in a hospital during the summers when I was 13 and 15. The feeling of belonging, responsbility ( I ran lab samples around ), and just being away from my other social groups ( family, friends, school) was very helpful. It may also be the kid doesn't want to outside stuff because he associates it with "death marches with dad". Feel him out for what he wants to do. I would also avoid pushing him down the " get a job to pay for a car so I can drive around and hang out and buy stuff" . He can spend his adult life doing that. Volunteer work at other places , away from his peer groups, is probably going to encourage more personal growth than anything.

Maybe the guy who sold them to the store "never fell on them"...

I thought the orange aliens were recalled...

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I second the Zum-Zum recommendation, you can get combos too. one scoop lamb curry and one scoop chicken.

I strolled in around 9:30 and there was around 20 people or so. Cool meeting a lot folks that I have only known through their spray. Also enjoyed hearing some of the war stories. fun had by all

oh and bring a rainshell. its usually wet around memorial day.

Schweet, what time are folks going to be there? I have yet to make it to a pub club.

Tired of bouldering. Looking for new partners for weekday training at Stone Gardens. PM if interested. Thx.

One of the climbers was from Redmond MOUNT KILIMANJARO NATIONAL PARK, Tanzania -- The climbers were asleep in their tents, hoping to get a few hours rest before a pre-dawn ascent of Africa's highest peak, when the boulders rained down. Three Americans were killed, and two others were seriously injured. The Americans were among several dozen foreign climbers from various tour groups camped near Arrow glacier on 19,340-foot Kilimanjaro's difficult Western Breach when the rockslide occurred Wednesday. The dead were identified as Kristian Ferguson, 27, of Longmont, Colo.; Mary Lou Sammis, 58, of Huntington, N.Y.; and Betty Orrik Sapp, 63, of Melrose, Mass. The climbing trip was a lifelong dream of Sapp and her husband, William Sapp Jr., both physicists, neighbor Jeannine Holden said. The husband survived. Ferguson, a satellite engineer at Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp. in Boulder, Colo., had been hiking with his wife and others from the Colorado Mountain Club. "Kris had a lucky star, up until the day before yesterday," said his father, Paul Ferguson of Redmond. "He was always energetic and brilliant at whatever he tried. He was able to deal with the most technical problems, and yet he was the most cerebral type of person when it came to things like psychology and philosophy and poetry." Kristian Ferguson moved to Redmond with his family when he was in the second grade, his sister, Kellie Ferguson, said. He graduated from Eastside Catholic High School in Bellevue as co-valedictorian in 1996. He graduated from Gonzaga University in 2000. "He was charmed and charming," said his mother, Karrie. Paul Ferguson said Jodi Coochise, his daughter-in-law, told him the couple were in their tents when the rock slide occurred. Coochise also was struck and bruised by rocks. Debbie Ramsey, a Sammis family friend, said Sammis was in Tanzania with her husband, Scott, and three adult children.

3 climbers killed on Mt. Kilimanjaro MOUNT KILIMANJARO NATIONAL PARK, Tanzania (AP) -- The climbers were asleep in their tents, hoping to get a few hours rest before a pre-dawn ascent of Africa's highest peak, when the boulders rained down. Three Americans were killed and two others seriously injured. The Americans were among several dozen foreign climbers from various tour groups camped near Arrow glacier on Kilimanjaro's difficult Western Breach when the rock slide occurred Wednesday. The dead were identified as Kristian Ferguson, 27, of Longmont, Colorado; Mary Lou Sammis, 58, of Huntington, New York; and Betty Orrik Sapp, 63, of Tennessee. Ferguson, a satellite engineer at Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp. in Boulder, Colorado, had been hiking with his wife and others from the Colorado Mountain Club, friends and club officials said. "Kris had a lucky star, up until the day before yesterday," said his father, Paul Ferguson, of Redmond, Washington. "He was always energetic and brilliant at whatever he tried. He was able to deal with the most technical problems and yet he was the most cerebral type of person when it came to things like psychology and philosophy and poetry." "He was charmed and charming," said his mother, Karrie. Ferguson said Jodi Coochise, his daughter-in-law, told him the couple were in their tents when the rock slide occurred. Debbie Ramsey, a family friend answering the telephone at the Sammis home, said Sammis was in Tanzania with her husband, Scott, and three adult children. "It was a dream come true for them," Ramsey said of the family's trip. Sammis "loved to hike and was always going on hiking trips with friends," Ramsey said. "Mary was a very upbeat, wonderful, great friend." The injured Americans were flown to Nairobi, Kenya, for treatment, said James Wakibara, acting spokesman for Mount Kilimanjaro National Park. Several Tanzanian guides also were initially reported killed, but regional police commander Mohamed Chico said Thursday that no Tanzanians had been found among the dead. Of the world's top peaks, Kilimanjaro is among the easiest to scale -- though, as Wednesday's slide demonstrates, it can be deadly. The climbers set out Saturday to climb the Umbwe route, the most difficult on Mount Kilimanjaro, which at 19,443 feet is the highest freestanding mountain in the world. Even so, the route is only a very difficult hike, not requiring safety ropes or special equipment. The group had taken several days to reach the camp at Arrow glacier, the normal resting point at 15,800 feet, before summiting Uhuru peak along the Umbwe route. Climbers usually arrive before nightfall and sleep until they begin the ascent at around 2 a.m. to reach the summit at dawn. Above the campsite is a steep slope of loose gravel and above that is the crater wall of a now-extinct volcano. While the climbers were sleeping, boulders and rocks broke off the wall and fell on the campsite, said Thomas Kimaro, owner of Alpine Tours. Wakibara said a rescue team was immediately sent up the mountain along with every available porter to help bring down the dead and injured. By Thursday morning, more than 50 foreign climbers had been brought down, some with minor injuries, and the Umbwe route was clear, he said. More than 20,000 tourists attempt to climb the mountain every year. About 10 people die each year during the climb, usually from high-altitude sickness. But rock slides are rare, Wakibara said. "The possible explanation I hear on this could be earth movement or vibration," he said. "It has never happened like this in the past." Chico said experts were on the mountain Thursday trying to determine what caused the slide. There had been a change in the weather at the peak before the rock fall, officials said without elaborating on how that could have contributed to the accident. Warmer temperatures over the last decade have melted some of Mount Kilimanjaro's glaciers, causing them to retreat, which has loosened rocks once held in place by the ice. Climbers on other routes were allowed to continue Thursday, Wakibara said.

Wacky Weather Year... national hurricane center advisroy

I wonder if they make burberry windshirts...

Hmm. Brining the thread back on track. Went out on Saturday to Belltown. Hit the Nightlite, Shorty's, Alibi Room , and Pike Place Brewing. Some disgruntled types outside of each smoking ( especially the Nightlite). 25 foot rule ignored ( not suprised) but the air inside actually breathable. Could play pinball without smelling like my dead granduncle. Definite improvement.

"Tuck and roll, tuck and roll!"

don't forget the white part of the cute 18 year old females going missing

BBC article Squirrels have bitten to death a stray dog which was barking at them in a Russian park, local media report. Passers-by were reportedly too late to stop the attack by the black squirrels in a village in the far east, which reportedly lasted about a minute. ...

smurfs are belgian too...

full article The ocean current that gives western Europe its relatively balmy climate is stuttering, raising fears that it might fail entirely and plunge the continent into a mini ice age. The dramatic finding comes from a study of ocean circulation in the North Atlantic, which found a 30% reduction in the warm currents that carry water north from the Gulf Stream. ... he North Atlantic is dominated by the Gulf Stream – currents that bring warm water north from the tropics. At around 40° north – the latitude of Portugal and New York – the current divides. Some water heads southwards in a surface current known as the subtropical gyre, while the rest continues north, leading to warming winds that raise European temperatures by 5°C to 10°C. But when Bryden’s team measured north-south heat flow last year, using a set of instruments strung across the Atlantic from the Canary Islands to the Bahamas, they found that the division of the waters appeared to have changed since previous surveys in 1957, 1981 and 1992. From the amount of water in the subtropical gyre and the flow southwards at depth, they calculate that the quantity of warm water flowing north had fallen by around 30%. When Bryden added previously unanalysed data – collected in the same region by the US government’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration – he found a similar pattern. This suggests that his 2004 measurements are not a one-off, and that most of the slow-down happened between 1992 and 1998. The changes are too big to be explained by chance, co-author Stuart Cunningham told New Scientist from a research ship off the Canary Islands, where he is collecting more data. "We think the findings are robust." ...

hmm, is the sit down start waived if you can't hold your breath for that long?

"In our day we would have to run down the peasants with our lances, but you just appointed an idiot to FEMA. Genius!"

Chinese to invade america via tunnel!

You're here, aren't you? And just who do you propose be the judge of "how well suited they are to society and/or the environment". I've always been in favor of a 'coming-of-age' cagefight. Throw an entire graduating class of kids in a big cage, only let half of them come out. I'd skew the odds, and arm the cute ones. Go and rent the Japanese movie "Battle Royale" IMDB review of battle royale

Plus with the new 4 four foot rule you need to be able to see the dancers more clearly...

The Seattle Way... Where talk replaces action and everyone must be involved,consulted, and pleased The more things change, the more they stay the same Forward Thrust vote approves stadium and aquarium, nixes transit on February 13, 1968.