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quote: Originally posted by Jens: I would have to agree with Dr.Ben Krazy. The route would include steep snow ice aid mixed skiing free rock And you'd get Brownie points for chopping a swimming hole in Lake Serene and taking a skiiny dip. i think hardman route status should include hellish approach factors; serious bushwacking, be it long or vertical. the pickets come to mind. has anyone mentioned nooksack tower yet?

quote: Originally posted by chucK: And speaking of descriptions of the Toothe and internet beta and Scott E. Rix, I noticed that his recent Toothe report (compare and contrast to Toothe report BTW as Dru has suggested) recommends a rack of a .5 and a #2 Camalots and a bunch of slings. What do you guys think about that!! philfort on the tooth:

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if you are skiing a lot of backcountry and therefore deep powder brakes can be a bad idea. you can loose (i.e. not find again) a ski in deep pow. it has happened to two people i know. my $.02 p.s. at rainy pass yesterday. [ 11-18-2002, 03:28 PM: Message edited by: gregm ]

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by Son of Caveman: Ya want to talk about love loss, they 86'ed trask . Likely a database corruption issue. more corruption! first all those ceo's, now this. what's happened to america!

well, i think we've gotten into some fine philosphical back and forth and big word usage, but maybe we should keep the topic focused on what this thread has drifted into: should snowmobiles be allowed in parks? we've focused on the different types of users of parks, maybe the discussion should be of the land itself. what do we want a park to be, a wilderness or a playground?

barry blanchard (?) rings a bell.

mtngoat your basic argument appears to be that environmentalism equals hypocrisy. you support this claim by saying that anyone who rides a motor vehicle cannot honestly be an environmentalist. i would say that environmentalism is just another way of saying "don't shit on the carpet". to which you would reply, "do you not shit? you are a hypocrite". to which i would reply, "shitting should be done on a toilet". there are simply different uses for different areas, the john is used for shitting, the living room carpet for lolling about, and we want to keep it clean. most of our land is designated to be used by motor vehicles. small patches of land, national parks, are set aside to be preserved in a more natural state. i think it's that simple. am i wrong?

KLAGENFURT, Austria -- Restoration work on an Austrian church has uncovered a 700-year-old fresco that some say bears a striking resemblance to Mickey Mouse. personally, i think the church should sue disney for copywrite infringement.

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: But I'm disappointed in the dumb pro-business stances, like caving into the ski-doo lobby. did bush cave into a business lobby or did he cave into the rural demographic? the electoral college and u.s. senate give sparsely populated states like montana and wyoming a lot of voting power. the rural vote put bush in the white house in the first place why should he turn his back on it? snowmobiles and the like are big with billybobs, most environmentalists live in the suburbs.

when i was in the army in korea they sold regular american budweiser in the PX, and one could also buy a korean liscensed budweiser in any store. the american bud was twist-off, the korean bud was not. some friends of mine used to like to ride the train to seoul and they'd make sure they'd sit across from some south korean soldiers. they'd try to engage them in a rudimentary conversation, including who was tougher, at which point they'd pull out some american bud and twist the tops off with their teeth. the koreans, who didn't know what a twist-off was, were typically quite impressed.

that's right iain, you are all over those page tops! i was going to try for this one but had to go do some work stuff iain really likes it when people appreciate his page top work. atta boy iain [pat on head] gooood booooy

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: POW! Edit: Damn, too old and slow to keep up with you spring chickens! DFA that has to be the lamest attempt at a ever. there were 4 posts proir to yours. i posted twice with flood control. you need to hit the keyboard gym dude.

quote: Originally posted by iain: sucka

quote: Originally posted by sayjay: quote:Originally posted by forrest_m: ok, maybe I’m just making this up, but I seem to remember reading once that “sandbagging” comes from the 18th & 19th century tradition of press-ganging, where ships in need of crew would basically run through towns kidnapping people who would then wake up on board, headed for india or somewhere. this practice was legal in england for 200 years! the favorite weapon of these folks was a sock or bag filled with sand because it didn’t do permanent damage and it didn’t *look* like a weapon. the press gangers would mingle with other sailors, get them drunk, and then *wham*, welcome to the navy. I think the term sandbagging comes from the apparently innocuous appearance of the weapon… this probably won’t convince anyone, but I wanted you to all know what a book-loving nerd I am. ah-HA! that would explain the other verb form of the word "sandbag" in my lil dictionary: "to hit with a sandbag" from oed: 1. a. trans. To furnish with sandbags. 1860 Cornh. Mag. Oct. 440 The Bank [was] sandbagged and barricaded. 1906 Daily Chron. 11 Dec. 10/5 He not only fastens all his windows, he sandbags them. b. intr. To attend to sandbags. 1928 Sat. Even. Post 4 Feb. 100/2 One of the chauffeurs had just finished fueling the plane. ?You fly her,? said Andy. ?I'll sandbag.? 2. To fell with a blow from a sandbag. Also fig., to bully or coerce; to criticize or lambaste. 1887 Courier-Jrnl. (Louisville, Kentucky) 2 Feb. 6/2 The next day Claytor turned up at Central Station with a fairy story that he had been sand-bagged on his way home. 1889 Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch 16 Sept., John Lehner and Henry Koontz were sandbagged Saturday night. 1897 HOWELLS Landl. Lion's Head 421 He had not been sand~bagged, or buncoed. 1901 Congress. Rec. 23 Jan. 1345/1 [This district] is lying in wait, as it were, from one year's end to the other, awaiting an opportunity to sandbag the public. 1903 ?O. HENRY? in Ainslee's Mag. Feb. 59/2 About what figure had you and the kalsominer agreed to sandbag the state for? 1919 Daily News 12 Mar. 8/1 While the [German] revolution was being side-tracked in Parliament it was being sand-bagged in the proletariat. 1973 Globe & Mail (Toronto) 4 May 6/1 Each will attempt to sandbag the Liberals into adopting its policies. 1974 Listener 27 June 818/1 Mr Heath and Mr Wilson sandbagging each other at televised press conferences. 3. Poker. To refrain from raising at the first opportunity in the hope of raising by a greater amount later. 1940 O. JACOBY On Poker v. 36 The time to sandbag is when you have three of a kind or better. 1950 G. S. COFFIN Poker Game Compl. vi. 71 Jacks back sometimes offers a fine chance to sandbag. 1977 D. ANTHONY Stud Game i. 7 He fondled his stack of blue chips. He was sandbagging me. I gave him the same dose of silence. 1978 Sci. Amer. July 112/3 By under-representing a strong hand (sand-bagging) and thus keeping his opponents from folding a player may increase the pot he expects to win. perhaps the last, poker related defination relates to the climbing context "to under-represent".

quote: Originally posted by iain: hard to believe, but clearly some have even more free time and are even more idle than others at work. on an unrelated note, i believe veggiebelay deserves an award for most frequently changed avatar image. have a on me, vb.

i haven't looked at any of these. i feel fine. i'm enjoying my wholesome morning. god bless, g

consider a highly used vehicle. about three years ago i brought an '89 nissan pathfinder with 160k miles for $3k and spent another $1k on preventative maintenance. it has been extremely reliable. it will go just about anywhere, but only 2 or 3 times a year do i drive it someplace a sube wouldn't clear. it obviously has a lot of room - 4 people with tons of gear fits fine, and sleeping in the back is pretty nice. i often use the 4wd. i have used the chains a few times, mostly in canadaland. point is for $4k i covered my needs. it only gets 20 mpg (compared to a sube's ~30 mpg) but i secretly feel superior to enviro-yuppies because i feel like i'm driving a recycled vehicle.

"...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas."

matt's right, spray used to be funny - a mindless diversion while sitting at work. what happened?

what if we were to immortalize scott'teryx in daily language! we could say "yeah, i pulled a scot'teryx" to mean "i left my buddy on the trail where he probably got eaten by an older woman" or we could say "looks like this one's for summitpost" to mean, i dunno, something else.

yeah all this scott'tero bashing is lame. it's almost as bad as all that dan larson bashing. although dan... nevermind.

NRA rally story "This rally is about self-defense against violent predators such as the murderer who killed three innocent professors," Thomas said. hey, it's not people or guns, it's their teeth, what do you expect? "That tragedy would not have happened if more people had guns," he said. i'm not all hepped up on gun control, but i think it would be cool if people who were into guns didn't say lot's of dumb stuff all the time.