Llarian

Vertical World (all of them) doesn't make you lead it clean however. You can hangdog, fall, whatever. They just wanna make sure you have the technique. They do tend to have a few 5.7/5.8 leads set at all times though, mostly the jug ladders like mentioned above.

heh. I'll admit to missing Playground Point my first time trying to find it. We went up on the right side of the drainage instead of the left, finally realized our mistake, and bushwhacked over. Sadly, we were right above PP, but thought it was higher and climbed probably 1000' up the side of the hill before realizing our mistake and turning back. Finally landed right on the top of PP (again), and it started raining. Its amazing what a little practice reading semi-useless approach beta will gain you, I haven't failed to find a crag since. =)

Theoretically there's no camping allowed, but the road is full of the area's colorful individuals camping there pretty much all the time. It also says no shooting, and all the signs are riddled with bullet holes, so make of that what you will.

I'd take 4 or so, almost lost some screws into a river in Ouray last February when one of my Petzl racking biners caught on something and broke.

I certainly wouldn't carry it on, but I just flew a couple weeks ago with a full ice climbing setup in cargo. No problems other than the TSA searched note on the way back. Kudos for the poor TSA guy who had to try to get my suitcase closed again after searching it.

Climbed this yesterday. Its still well in, but its thinned out a LOT from the pictures posted at the top of the thread. The WI3 at the top is still climbable, (although we didn't do it,) but it has water running down the surface at a pretty good rate. A nice fun gentle route though. This thing have a name? -D

I grew up out on the Peninsula, but I haven't been back since I started climbing. I'll be back this weekend, so I figure I should break in my new pair of boots with a little scrambling or something if the weather is decent. Anybody have any suggestions for some accessible (no 4 hours approaches please) scrambling around the Port Angeles area? I could always do Mt. Angeles or something, but I've done that one several times before as a kid. There must be something more interesting in the general area. =) -D

Looks like the White House released the text of their socialist propaganda: http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/ Yup, sure makes sense that all the true red-blooded American families out there are protecting their precious children from the message of staying in school, just like the White House said it would be about.

Not sure if I'd call it rainforest, but there's a lot of nice hiking around Graywolf and Royal Basin that should be accessible now. (Check TRs) There aren't any nice destination valleys along the Elwha River Trail really, but its still a nice hike up to Elkhorn and further if you want. Again, not sure about the snow conditions now, I don't usually hit that area until later in the summer. And, of course, there's always Glacier Meadows.

Another vote for the Raven Pro. Using it felt like an extension of my arm from the moment I first tried it. I vastly prefer the actual steel spike and head, vs an open spike and aluminum head.

Anybody have a source of beta for the Potholes climbing area over by Vantage? The only book that seems like it might cover it is very poorly reviewed (including by Robbins, who "contributed" the section on Potholes in the first place). I'm not turning up anything useful by searching here either. Anybody got any links of suggestions? -D

Vertical World stocks this as well (at least at the Seattle and Everett branches)