twocents

As Ed McMahon would say to Johnny, "You are correct sir." Welcome to the club. You are correct again, but don't try to tell that to the 'insiders.' They are perfect people who have already learned everything there is to know about climbing, at least in their own twisted minds. If you don't believe me, just ask them, they'll tell ya, "I am a perfect person who has already learned everything there is to know about climbing. Now go away you freakin newbie with less than 200 posts."

As Ed McMahon would say to Johnny, "You are correct sir." Welcome to the club. You are correct again, but don't try to tell that to the 'insiders.' They are perfect people who have already learned everything there is to know about climbing, at least in their own twisted minds. If you don't believe me, just ask them, they'll tell ya, "I am a perfect person who has already learned everything there is about climbing. Now go away you freakin newbie with less thatn 200 posts."

Excuse me? You did nothing of the sort. And you have no one but me to thank for ending the speculative posts while all you did is contribute to the problem. Admin is definitely not in your future. Now show some appreciation and contribute to support my good deeds buy clicking on the link below to make a paypal donation. http://www.kevboner.com Fawk off bitch. You are a newbie. Nothing new. If it wasnt for me this would still be a speculating bitch thread in Oregon Cascades that needs to be in Spray. I got it changed, no one else. You personaly have pissed folks off. I dont care about that. I have done my share of that. But learn your place Mr. 50 posts. I piss people off? OMG, no! That's so uncalled for and out of the norm here. You would never do that, right? You're just another jerk who needs to take a good look in the mirror. And I bet you want us to believe that Santa comes down chimneys to eat milk and cookies and leave presents, the Easter Bunny leaves eggs in the grass, and the tooth fairy leaves quarters under pillows. You're as bad as O.J. The proof is in the first post of this thread. Case closed, liar. Now go fuck yourself with an ice axe. Use the sharp end.

What a lovely dinner conversation. Your answer was correct. Now find a charming supposed climber who frequents this site to tell her what a stupid, ignorant, irrelevant question it was.

And then some will go to discussion boards, drag victims through the mud and desecrate their memories. That says a lot for the 'community.' I doubt such climbers, if that's even what they can honestly call themselves, have ever done anything for any climber, much less signed up for SAR. Stop flattering yourselves.

Why do bunnies need two fingers just to tell which way the wind is blowing?

Your condolences have been received by no one on this thread. There is no climbing community on this thread, and if there is, they don't care.

The one thing I've learned from this site more than anything else, is that there is not another sport in the world where so many participants care so little about the loss of life, their own or anyone elses. No one spewing venom and making light of the climber's fate could possibly be a rescue climber.

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Didn't know there was such a thing.

Wrongo. Go check with CNN, or earlier posts in this thread.

Naw, none at all.

I've thought about that, and yes I think it's possible.

I think maybe they were feezing and suffering on the mountain and put themselves out of their misery. I could see someone doing that. The sheriff may have been hinting at that by saying the rope was cut. Knowing him, I'm surprised he even mentioned that voluntarily, instead of waiting for a reporter to somehow know to ask "did you find any cut rope?"

No one who knows anything about climbing will come into this 'spray' thread and teach you anything about the subject. So don't hold your breath. A few might have, a little bit, in the original Mt. Hood thread under the Route category, but they won't here. In all actuality, I'm not interested in speculation. I'm interested in fact. But since the facts are so vague for us, the only thing left is speculation. I agree with you. I'm interested in fact, too. One thing I'm wondering about is that second small cave atop the gullies. I've read that they think they built this cave to protect themseves from the wind while doing something else, and anchored themselves on there. Were they planning to descend the way they came up? Wouldn't that be difficult in that type of weather? And, if they were somehow swept off the cliff there, as has been postulated, why would a glove and a sleeping foam be left behind? Those are relatively small and light items that also should have been swept off by a wind or an avalanche. But, then, I must assume that they wouldn't leave their two axes behind and start a descent there without them on purpose. Ok, I know nothing, but that just stands to reason. And, why would one stay behind without an injury? A difference of opinion about whether they should leave or stay, perhaps? It's all a big mystery with a lot of unanswered questions. I'm not sure exactly where they found the items you mentioned, whether they were just laying out on top of the snow, or buried in a snow cave. I tend to think the former, since they knew of them when the photos were taken, and I didn't see them in the photos of the footprints and anchor. And at the point the pics were taken, they hadn't visited the site yet, so I don't know how or when the items were confiscated. The sheriff has to be asked "Do you have the items now?" cause he doesn't volunteer much without being asked, and the press is too lame to know what to ask. The sherrif doesn't divulge much in his press conferences, and when he does, the info changes later. The problem is made worse when the media rarely asks the right questions, and when they do, it takes them days to even think of them. At the Waco, Texas Mt. Carmel David Kouresh incident, I waited for days for a reporter to ask, "If you knew they had automatic weapons inside, why were you outgunned?" cause the lady doing the press conferences said the first day they were "outgunned." Press is kinda slowbrained most of the time.

I'm not under 50 anymore. In case you didn't notice, I'm well on my way to being another unscrupulous degenerate moron, ready to fit in like a cheap suit.

That's a completely insensitive thing to say about three fellow members of the climbing community.

naw, i don't think that's right.

You are so late to the party you qualify for the "Instant Idiot Award." You and no cents should meet for drinks and to speculate each other, maybe inviting someone else to join in for fact checking. I bet this is keeping you from sleeping at night, since you are so "haunted by the tragedy." Vulture Yeah, kind of like a family member would be. But you on the other hand, don't give a lame rat's ass bout the climbers, so why the hell would you care what happened to them? You don't. Easy climb, easy fall. It's all part of the game, right?

Yes Molly, the latest botch job of the day is he didn't have an injured shoulder after all. I think the rescue workers might be speaking English while the sheriff listens in pig latin. I'm so used to it, it doesn't even phase me anymore. Can't wait to hear what tomorrows hogwash brings. Maybe they'll find a note that's been laying around the water cooler for two weeks.

No one who knows anything about climbing will come into this 'spray' thread and teach you anything about the subject. I question whether anyone who really knows much good information about the sport even comes in here at all. They're all posers. So don't hold your breath. A few might have helped you, a little bit, in the original Mt. Hood thread under the Route category, if you said pretty please and caught them in a rare good mood, but they won't here. In all actuality, I'm not interested in speculation. I'm interested in fact. But since the facts are so vague for us, the only thing left is speculation. I can't even get answers as to which way footprints were headed. You're suppose to know enough about climbing to figure it out on your own from a photo taken at a great distance with a zoom lens If I were a family member, I'd want to know every detail. Even though I'm not one, I still want to know.

I learned a lesson years ago when a co-worker finally drilled into me that the employer didn't give a crap about the employees. All he would say, with great emphasis was, "THEY...DON'T...CARE." My level of complaining and wasting of time in a lot of areas in life took a nosedive when I finally realized how right my co-worker was, even long after I stopped working there. I didn't have to be at this site very long to realize, THEY DON'T CARE. Nice try, but you wasted your time telling them things they already know.

roflmao

hey dont include my name. I'd never say those things. Or type them.

naw, not her. shes a known lesbian. a real manhater. I'm not even sure what she did to become so famous though. Maybe the show's producer is lezzy too.