ivan, i honestly don't think what you did was on purpose, i think i just covered my tracks very well. perhaps i had a bit more experience on hard aid and free climbs. maybe i'm being unrealistic to think you could have possibly had the same vision that i did. after all i'll never know what the color blue looks like to you, or what pizza taste like to you. i'm not knocking ur character, guess i jst had more of an expectation. my bad