mark, i don't like guide book's, but i have a shelf full of them. i don,t like money either, but it is neccecary for me to survive. if you hate one guide you may as well hate them all, because every crag has the potential of being shut down. some people build houses i the country to be isolated, but the minute someone builds a house next to them, wel there goes the nieghborhood.
i don't think i got off topic, i just agreed with you and put a little humor in at the ass end of my comment. i feel the same way as you do mark. i thought this topic was about star rating's, maybe this thread was mis-titled. i was just adding to your question because i think they are valid ones.
i have no say in the crag that you speak of, but i will say that i do agree with you on guide book's. i'm a hypocrite, and so are you. we are all hypocrite's to a certain degree. i did not even know that you guy's were talking about a certain crag. i talk to kevin everyday and you might find it hard to believe, but he has never mentioned to me once about putting out any guidebook.
mark, if you hate guides so much, why are posting on cc.com trying to hunt for a specific guide. i would form an opinion about you mark, but i don't really know you.
have a good day - i'm off to work , because fortnately i have work this winter.