pink

same question for shit for brains up there...

well, i just gotta ask... who was your mentor?

bolts, chalk, falcons... oh tell us more, show us the way. yer a regular modern day moses.

Check out the power of the Internet - now you can hear a whine all the way from Colorado where it's 81 degrees with scattered clouds in Eldo today. yes i know, i've been there plenty lately. now go convince some young stupid climber that u r RAD! feel sorry for the guy u mentor. free climbing with pocket protectors and double gear slings. go away from beacon ya fucking dork.

Yeah, that Bachar/Yerian route? Total sport climb dude. You'll notice I never mentioned sport in my post, dude. Bolted climbs are not trad IMHO, regardless of whether they are ground-up, onsight, and bolted by hand from hooks or rappel bolted with a Hilti. If your trad defn is different then post it and let the discussion continue. This is exactly the point I think is up for debate. People typically try to think of climbing as divided between sport and trad. Something has to budge because neither the Grand Wall nor Dreamer is a sport route. I wouldn't even call Silent Running a sport route. Infinite Bliss is no sport route. I don't think that is debateable. But if you argue they aren't trad routes either... what are they? I think that a climb establshed ground-up, bolted on lead and by hand can qualify to be called trad. "Trad" means "traditional" right? What is the tradition? When was the term invented? I feel that it would be harder to get more "traditional" than some of the hard lines put up in Yosemite in the 60s, for example. There are more than a few bolt ladders on those. To me the essence of trad is not the type of protection used, but the spirit required. For once I may find myself agreeing with Pink.

Jh has a degree in CRYPTIC.... to bad he didn't go for a masters in STOIC....

u mean the route setters? they're everywhere...BEWARE!!!!

the western gorge huh, sounds like beacon is opened or JH has special privileges out at beacon. or in his desperation and failed attempt for an early opening has been reduced to climbing at the far side.

crack is not trad, crack climbing is crack climbing. trad spells danger in my mind... just cause u threw some gear in doesn't mean it's trad. i hate the word "trad", it's called climbing... plain and simple.

cool, any falcon flybys?

i've done that too, an the answer is yes.. unless u get caught

more garbage in the wilderness....

so did i... and now i'm rolling around on the ground. i think i need stitches.

well i climbed "ground zero" during a closure. ask the federal agents.. it happened. and we didn't even make a sound

that's actually JH getting some yardage...

good job brother

sucking dru...

best not to drag your flesh across the rock...

i'm such a washed up climber dru fag... go pick on someone who with thicker glasses

I' sorry that I don't know what this is in reference too but I can guess.....it must be that you are still beating your wife then..AHHHHHH HAAA! (I'm kidding, just kidding, calm down calm down son!!!) What happens with the Bone stays with the Bone, Pms or not. Pink, John is one of THE most right on dudes I've had the good fortune of ever meeting and climbing with. Top of the pile someplace. I suspect that like others with Kevbone, you are accepting an online persona that is not real in real life. say my name bill

happy birthday brother.. now i have an excuse to start drinking early.

me too, i never was very good at climbing but i sure did enjoy the leisure lifestyle.

sweet ass! now that's a bitchin TR. my kinda line. can't wait to read more of your TR's in the future.