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"I'm not here This isn't happening." They can't beleive they were dupped so badly. "People are more easily taken by a big lie than by a small lie." Once they swallow the big lie, they have to follow the turd down the hole to beleive it is a turd. They've been duped by the corporate television. Madison Avenue has packaged and sold them shi* for shinola. When they can take a village idiot and turn him into presidential material now that's marketing. Orwell was prescient, he wasn't even that far off on the year. "China's democracy has advanced to the point where America was in the 1880's. Patent medicine, Robber Barons, and no regulations. America on the other hand, has regressed back to that point." If they've been duped by television, then how did the folks back at the turn of the century get duped?

The gobment should not be in the business of rescuing people. If you are going to ask for help when you screw up or get in trouble, and they have to pay, then they get to dictate what, when and where you will go. It's that simple. So they should be out of the rescue business so we can be free. That simple. Simple minds require simple answers. The government is in the road building business, yet they do not tell me where to drive. The government is in the food safety business, yet they do not tell me what to eat. The government is in the drug approval business, yet they do not tell me what drugs I must take. The goverment... ...oh, you get the idea. This non-argument practically bludgeons itself to death...no need for me to continue.

none, imo...you warrant a rescue on the freeway from a car crash, you'll get a bill... you warrant a rescue in the hills, you'll get a bill... europe is this way...might encourage a little more caution/get-myself-out-of-this-mess-by-myself-ness... But, like, you never go out into the mountains, so what do you care? You don't get a bill from a car crash rescue, BTW. Neither the State Patrol nor EMT services sends you a bill. You do have to pay for medical care, as you would if you were injured cutting tomatoes in your kitchen, but that's different from the rescue part. Bottom line; these services are ALREADY PAID FOR by tax dollars. They are also necessary for training purposes. Charging for them is double taxation.

Nationwide, only 3% of all rescues involve climbers. It's a non-problem. There has always been a large segment of the American population that wants things safe, comfy, and boring. This glob of couch potatoes resents climbers, motorcyclists, and anyone else who choses to take life by the balls. I suspect that the attitude stems from having a dissatisfying life; the last such a person wants to do is keep their eyes on their own plate.

The decline in home prices will probably bring at least as many people into the market for homes as foreclosures eject from them, so I don't expect net home-ownership percentages to drop substantially over the long term. Yeah Jay, let us know when the Martians land to purchase the homes whose only reason for existing was the home construction boom based on consumer access to junk credit! These vast tracts for the moment are serving as unintentional wildlife refuges. I think Jay's point is that most owners of hard-to-unload properties, be them banks, individuals, or developers, would probably sell at a discount or a loss to willing buyers with less money than give them to all those nice kitties. Obviously, America has a glut of living space right now, so it makes sense that prices will continue to come down until supply roughly balances with demand; probably about the point where purchase prices are low enough so as to be covered by rental income. The biggest losers will be the McMansion owners. Awwwwwwwwwwww.

Uh oh. Obama's up a point and McCain's down a point today in the Gallup poll. Wasn't that the one PP was gloating so much about last week? Time's running out for the bunny raping cult.

Some things are too important to leave to the wasteful hands of government. Rescue is certainly one of them. Furthermore, there is no more efficient way to deliver the best quality services to those who need them than an unfettered pricing mechanism. Ask yourself this; when your out there in the dead of winter with a compound fracture of the femur and the head of your dick stuck in the Diet Pepsi can you just urinated into, do you really want some fat, not-my-job sheriff with a AA degree in Small Engine Repair and Maintenance organizing your last chance at life, or a talented professional who's fought his way to the top of an enormous dogpile of desperately unemployed Untouchables who will starve his whole family if he fucks up so much as a helpful greeting on one of his monitored-for-quality-assurance calls? You can do what you want during your next rescue, but I've added a credit card to my emergency field surgery kit.

What's a 'Canadian'?

The best part is that we won't have to listen to the squeeky bitch go on and on about how her kids got their names and how the Earth is only 4000 years old.

Wow. You look at all the Nationwide polls, and McCain's numbers aren't looking very good; this as the percentage of undecided voters drops and his numbers continue to follow the trajectory of the five planes he's crashed. Perhaps more folks remember the Keating 5 than the McCain campaign would like. Most nationwide polls give Obama a 5% lead. Out of 10 or 12 nationwide polls, only USA Today gives it to McCain at this point by suspiciously large margin. How do they filter for sub 50 IQs I wonder? As I've been predicting for months, Obama will take the election in a landslide; a long overdue end to almost 40 years of pocketlining, corporate cock sucking, cult supported conservativism.

I hope these distinctive looking pitons remain in the smallest number of hands possible; I'd rather keep my bail off artifacts anonymous.

It's interesting how different the NYT/CBS poll results are from those previous posted by others on this BB. I don't follow polls much, they don't affect my actions one way or the other, but just for fun I thought I'd check up on one of the more reputable ones. You always find what you're looking for, I guess. link I'm sure the current financial crisis will help McCain's numbers, of course, given his noteworthy record of diligent oversight of that industry. After all, in the end, its all about ethics, isn't it?

What species are they?

Not me. I just spent that $900 on heroin. It's all part of my early retirement package.

Bush is a good president because, as a Republican, he's reduced Big Government and Big Government spending, which we all know is Evil, and focused on making the economy what it is today.

You guys coulda snagged a bucket load of free WWII pitons from the mounties today, but ya didn't. Anyone wanna climb with me? Your lead. Actually, they're smaller sized lost arrows, and they look pretty decent.

Or The Purge.

Thanks, Lowell. Aside from two crates of free, 'new' WWII pitons (pretty decent, actually), there were some vintage stoves and other equipment dating back from the turn of the century, including a full bottle of WWII era bug juice and an unopened roll of malted milk tablets, plus loads of cool old copper photographic plates (I loaded up with about 20). A fine day of mountaineering archeology.

These were shot with a borrowed Canon Powershot SD1000. Before I dropped it, I used a Canon Powershot 800IS. From now on, I'll be using a the next generation of the same; a Canon Powershot SD870 IS. This is a great little camera: 4x zoom, 8 MP, 3" LCD, macro. I web ordered mine from B&H Photo in NYC; one of the few reputable shops out there, for about $250 incl shipping. There are shops out there that offer a cheaper price, but they they're notorious for a) claiming the item's in stock when it's not b) sending you a refurbished unit instead of a new one, complete with crappy aftermarket battery c) call you and try to upsell you all kinds of crap you don't need and d) charge you more than the price you thought you were paying.

Oh, hey, we're only down to 25 attacks per day! Hell, Iraq's practically just like Main Street, USA!

Let the bodies hit the ground! Let the bodies hit the ground!

That's 'MISTER King of ALL the Ass Candles to you, sister.

At least this thread isn't about chicks with guns on motorcycles. I wouldn't survive that.

At least your snaffles waited until you left.... [video:youtube]utjLtld9Ftw

I'll take 'girl with AK' over 'girl from AK' any day, m'kay?