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Pretty much, yes. Virginia's a shithole. You ever lived there? I have. I can't wait to turn Washington into Mississippi! Go Toothless!

Anecdote versus statistics. Statistically, your first argument was correct. There are always exceptions, of course.

And 12 hour a day, 6 day workweeks....now STFU.

More persecution!!!! The Humanity!!!!

The whole Founding Fathers thing is pretty funny - those guys got along about as well as we Spraylords do. One might say that we're just continuing the argument they started.

Burr was another horny one - livin' large with the colonial bitchez one step ahead of his creditors.

Old Ben went to France and basically stopped showing up for work. So many French ladies...so little time. Jefferson's early romantic attempts produced a lot of FAIL - including a bid for another wealthy Virginian's wife. The letter he sent her referring to his manhood wasn't a charmer, apparently. Victorian SHUT DOWN.

Pound for pound though, Franklin's hit rate was higher.

Unlike the Great Man, I steer well clear of the teen scene, though. Jefferson was as much Fondling Daddy as he was Founding Father. Still, Sally Hemmings was, by all accounts, a hottie.

DOOD. Make your life easier and use Ignore for those poor souls afflicted with excessive ball-sack-licking drive. You should have KKK's repertoire of 3 responses well memorized by now; you're basically responding to a wind up toy with a life support system attached.

DOOD. FOX never uses statistics. They don't need them...they feel what's Right. FOX doesn't hire Smart. They hire Angry. Danny Bonaduce (Partridge) was on 2 nights ago for expert commentary!

Geometry is King. The rest is window dressing.

A case for peaceful revolutions You gotta love adherents of Jefferson's famous 'blood of patriots and tyrants' quotes, given his own sorry military performance during the revolution and similar wide gaps between his statements and his behavior on a number of other issues regarding liberty. Bluster without performance was as popular then as now. The worst thing a revolution can do is attempt to fight the regime on its own terms: direct military confrontation. Much better to play on the dictatorship's weak spots - they always have plenty.

"We're going to go negotiate with our unions in a collective-bargaining fashion to achieve goals," the Republican governor said in an interview. "It's not picking fights. It's about getting people to come together and say here are the facts, here are the common-ground solutions." Gov. Rick Snyder, MI Snyder's asking state employees for $180 M in concessions this session...$43 M more than in WI

Um, you don't support ANY unions. STOP LYING!!!!!!

They're LYING!!!! THE CHILDREN!!!!

NYT editorial today: "Meanwhile, the governor is refusing to accept his own share of responsibility for the state’s projected $137 million shortfall. Just last month, he and the Legislature gave away $117 million in tax breaks, mostly for businesses that expand and for private health savings accounts. That was a choice lawmakers made, and had it not been for those decisions and a few others, according to the state’s Legislative Fiscal Bureau, the state would have had a surplus." Walker's proposed law would limit contracts to 1 year (yup, let's go through this EVERY YEAR) and disallow union dues from being automatically deducted from paychecks. Collective bargaining for wages only, with wages severely capped. No union busting there.

More than anyone else here save KKK, Nitrox diligently parrots damn near every one of FOX's sound bytes, word for word sometimes. A free thinking libertarian of the highest order! And, hey, NO LYING, mkay?

Spoken like a true Republican! LOL

Lots of swagger, lots of acrimony; no results. Voters tend to punish lawmakers who play this game for very long. Its kind of funny how every opinion poll out there contradicts the 'groundswell of support' the Bagger movement believes it has. Their concerns are simply not our concerns.

The governor's proposal would eliminate collective bargaining rights for health care and pensions, severely limit collective bargaining power for wages, and cut wages by 8%. Walker calls it a 'modest proposal'. His logic in removing these rights permanently? 'Hey, we don't have any money right now, so there's nothing to negotiate.' It's a union busting bill, pure and simple. Good luck with that, Govnuh!

More accurately, using sick days rather than an out and out strike prevents the governor from putting an emergency contingency plan into place which would enable him to bring in the National Guard to fill in those slots. The state workers are just being smart. Not something you're familiar with, I realize, but there you have it.

Curiously missing: a proposed law that would remove most collective bargaining rights from WI state employees. This isn't 'teacher selfishness' at work here. It's a full on, gloves off, union busting attempt. The WI senate has so far refused to vote on the bill. Sounds like the governor just didn't have the mandate he thought he did. Now he's an asshole in the eyes of every one of his state employees...good luck governing effectively from here on out!

Righties are wondering WTF? in WI, but the state employees know this is a nationwide battle for collective bargaining rights and if they lose this one it's won't be just a WI thing. The Baggers are trying out a little union busting (nothing new there). We'll see if it works. Seems like it might not be going to plan, though....

both things are valuable, and both things vital for a healthy republic OK: give us the quadratic equation for 1/4 of your grade: Go. No GOOGLEZ!