StevenSeagal

If you really believe it's this simple especially after 6 years of constitutional abuse, consolidation of executive power, and sidelining of congressional oversight, then you deserve the dictatorship you seem to desire. The rest of us don't want the same as bootlickers like you. Same dem sreaming as always. Come up with something new. I'm not a democrat, dumbass. Just not someone willing to excuse illegal/unethical behavior because the "other guys did it too". "Something new?" You can't even address Bush's acts apart from invoking Clinton. Clever diversion but we aren't stupid. Can't blame you though. You and all the other Bush lemmings put so much into promoting him and now that he's being exposed for the criminal he is, you're forced to go down with the ship. Sayonara, mother fucker.

Well okay. Here I am, ladies. You all know about my tough guy persona, but I can be sensitive too. I'll take January if it's not spoken for.

If you really believe it's this simple especially after 6 years of constitutional abuse, consolidation of executive power, and sidelining of congressional oversight, then you deserve the dictatorship you seem to desire. The rest of us don't want the same as bootlickers like you.

Quoting from Bush's ministers of propaganda- Rove, Snow, etc. as credible sources. How...predictable. You are a gullible, authority loving mother fucker.

So if these "acts that benefit their own party" (corrected for spelling errors) are unethical, no one in either party has a right to complain about it? Which makes each party accountable to whom? Is it cool then if Bush gets a BJ from that intern he's been eyeing?

Yeah Seahawk what would Jesus think of your impure thoughts?

V7, I think you have a couple fish on.

Shit another Rosie O'donald. I wasn't trying to suggest GWB planned 9-11, just saying confessions of tortured people don't mean shit, especially when they're trying to shift attention away from failure to catch bin Laden and make it look like "mission accomplished" all over again. I bet if you were water boarded for 4 years you'd admit to being madly in love with kevbone.

Yeah you know, after 4 years of torture and interrogation, KSM admitted to "planning 9-11". I bet if George Bush was cattle prodded and water boarded for 4 years, he's also confess to planning 9-11.

We don't, in fact. Dessimination of information passes through a lot of biased channels by the time it reaches us.

Going to go ahead and disagree with you here. Do you think if the US (or any country) told its people "we need to invade this country to secure control of its resources to help keep our economy strong and ensure profits for specialized industries!" that the populace would support that? Telling the people "that country is full of barbarians who want to kill you and your family and they pose an imminent threat to our way of life!" is a much easier way to channel uninformed support. Iranians have national pride and identity. They want their piece of the pie and with Iraq gone, here's their chance. But the US stands in their way. So they posture, and we posture back. Do we forge cooperation, or have a war? There are options here, contrary to what the posturing of each would suggest. The people we, and everyone, should be concerned about are the religious zealots who have no country- al Qaida. These people have nothing to lose by destroying shit. It's what they live for. In return, no country- including Iran- wants them. Except maybe Afghanistan. Where we should have been focusing our efforts all this time.

Iran is and always has been the regional power. Iraq was a colonial state created by the British. The division is more about "Sunni" and "Shiite", or "Persian" vs. "Arab". The reality is that Iran is probably destined to have a major influence over Iraq- they are next door neighbors. At this point, I would rather see us make a deal with the devil- negotiate from a position of strength (at this point that's shaky...) and forge a cooperative relationship with Iran to share the oil profits- than see another bloodbath with millions of dead people. Get real- oil is what this is about after all. The government wants us to believe it's about security and threats. Yes, it's possible Iran could develop a bomb and pass it off to extremists who would try to nuke New York or something. But I don't think it is in Iran's, or any nation state's, interest to see the US go down, and Iran knows it. They depend on our economy behind all the posturing. The posturing is about threats and nukes when the reality is about who controls the resources- oldest story in the book. There are those who saying negotiating with Iran makes us look weak...do we look strong in the region right now??!? If we did I doubt Iran would be challenging us as they are. The emperor has no clothes here and everyone knows it. The ironic position of strength may be the US' willingness to suck up it's pride and start talking. Not from this administration though- they won't do it anyway, and they aren't credible or trustworthy. It HAS to be someone else- anyone but Bush. He's done, stick a fork in him.

Back on topic- Iran. Iraq, though a fiasco that should never have happened, has nonetheless "happened". I'm not sure at this point that simply leaving outright is a good idea, but I'm quite sure that just using a bigger hammer is an even worse idea. So on top of this seemingly impossible situation, we now have Bush admin. war hawks starting the clamoring and fear mongering about how we need "regime change" in Iran too. I think anyone with an ounce of sense should be suspicious of Iran's intentions, yet another attack and invasion of a sovereign country "preemptively" will unleash hell on earth. The current US administration blew it with Iraq, therefore IMHO they have no credibility with which to craft yet another unprovoked invasion. This government, with what time it has left, needs to focus it's energies on the Taliban in Afghanistan first and foremost. Attack Iran? These people are out of their fucking minds. With what army? With what strategy? The ones that can't even control Iraq after 4 years? The result will be 6 or 7 figure deaths, the US utterly alone and isolated, global economic meltdown, and regional chaos across the middle east. Not to mention, assurance of another 1000 years of angry Jihadists. Regardless of who wins in 2008, the end of this administration cannot happen soon enough.

Haven't we heard this before? Here we go again...

STFU n00b.

I've kicked in a lot.... ...of teeth! Oly...I'm going to find out who did this to you. And when I do, they're going to discover that no one is Above the Law. I'll get Justice for you.

Holy shit.

That what I thought, you like Carrot top better. Ha. Well remember this guy's face- I have a feeling you'll be meeting him pretty soon-

That material's a little too new. What is she, 16?

I kicked Carrot's ass right after the photo, but you're the one carrying the photo around with you, obsessing over it. Do you sleep with it too? Does the sight of Carrot Top make your loins tingle? Get some new material, stalker.

Well put Tvash. I'm more optimistic towards this than my cynicism at times projects.

Someone should have labeled that as NSFW. But that was hilarious. Simply because the person getting the finger was Seahawks.....ha ha And also because it was your finger. Must we go back and remind people who crap themselves just to leave?? LOL Sure, knock yourself out. Each of your posts ensures that we'll never need a reminder that you're a choad guzzling ass clown.

Yeah, well Seahawks said you had a 2 inch'er...but hey, who's counting?

Where is Chestbeater when we need him?

Someone should have labeled that as NSFW. But that was hilarious. Simply because the person getting the finger was Seahawks.....ha ha And also because it was your finger.