StevenSeagal

Palin will then place Trig in a box attached to a large mylar balloon... either that or she will cause an uproar when, while exiting a limo at Wet T-Shirt night at Chilkoots in Anchorage, she "accidently" shows off her cooch to the Paparazzi.

Sure it was, after all that rehearsal..

Her job will be off camera, kneeling under Sean Hannity's desk during "Hannity and Hannity, and more Hannity"

how many times does a concert pianist rehearse a piece, focusing on certain movements, and even portions of a piece before actually performing it? hopefully, when practicing, he or she will be booed loud and often enough by bystanders to discourage them from playing that piece "until they're good enough", or at least forcing them to start from the beginning each time they make a wrong note!

that's exactly what "traditional" martial artists claimed about Bruce Lee's "no-form, no-style", even as no style kicked both their individual and collective asses. Your narrow minded vision and infantile ego define mediocrity while masquerading as enlightenment. "The one who says he knows does not know" - J. Krishnamurti. BOOOOOOOOOOO...hoo!

You mean like FW and Kojak's gristly death camp collections? Or Raindawg's collection of Nazi, Pee Wee Herman, and Richard Simmons photos.

Pope, did you know steroids and HGH are not only bad for your health, but they are illegal?

Sounds like "seige climbing" by another name...But hey, that's how YOU did it and of course you know what's best for everyone else. And hats- climbers shouldn't wear red hats, because back in the day you and your friends wore blue ones. Boooooo!!!!!! I sure wish I had been around in the Golden Years when mobs of climbers at the crags harassed those who didn't climb the "right way".

Peaceful Religion gee, I don't get it...vastly different culture than the middle east...and we so conclusively established that the notion of violence being in any level inherent in Islam as nonsense. I just can't figure it out. I guess it's just a few bad apples. It couldn't be the religion, that's for sure, that would be presumptive to say that. And besides, using the word Allah for God deserves a firm response. Kind of like that cartoon guy. If we weren't occupying Iraq we wouldn't keep being attacked by Nigerians, Somalis, Algerians, Moroccans, Egyptians, Saudis, Iranians, Pakistanis, Afghans, Turks, Indonesians, palesitinians, Jordanians, and Syrians. Clearly it's a strictly political dispute. Let's leave religion out of this and for GODS sake don't call him Allah unless you are one of the peace loving religious people, and you value your home and your life.

an ironic parallel to your postings here!

all i can say is that offwhite should really really be ashamed of himself for this level of bullying. grave-robbers are much more sensitive than commonly believed. in fact, they are seemingly about the most sensitive individuals on the planet. or at cc.com at least. but, i digress. what we were really talking about was the kabbalah. or is it cabbala? no one seems to have come up with a definitive spelling. it has something to do with the old testament though. and care bears.

that's what I thought oh ok Xmas/new years in Josh. Booyakasha muthafuckah! cool. next time can you bring prole with you? does he climb? I thought he lived in Cuba with Raul.

that's what I thought oh ok Xmas/new years in Josh. Booyakasha muthafuckah!

Kevbone learns all he knows by watching David Lee Roth videos.

Wassup fags, seagal here just hangin in the fagzone, any good hookers and blow in Squamish?

"bloody-minded" is what YOUR ideologoy has proven itself to be over the last hundred years. You are barking up the wrong tree. If anything I lean isolationist. I am perfectly willing to argue about any of our "foreign misadventures" - especially with you rabid left-wingers who live in some myopic fantasy world (kumbaya, anyone?). funny how Ron Paul was a wacko and even being ridiculed and condescended to during the GOP debates and now all of a sudden he's their new poster boy for conservative values. I don't recall hearing much isolationism from you a few years ago, more like FOAD STFU and lick sack to anyone who dared suggest Iraq was a boondoggle. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?

'Sup bitches, Kaskadskykojak here, just off a first ascent up Proles ass. lookin for sum fine single malt so I kin wash away the memory

I learned how to climb 5.15 by watching this. Thank you for posting.

The Bacon forum is an insult to Islam and I am sending martyrs to blow up this thread in retaliation.

I'm not giving any religion a free pass. My point is all religions have the potential to catalyze and provide coherence to political violence depending on the historical circumstances. Demonizing "Islam" as the root cause for the rise of militant fringe movements or that violence is exceptionally "hardwired" into it is nonsense. There is nothing "coherent" about violence. Sorry but I think the whole psychological process behind both Islam and Christianity has been hardwired with violence. Christianity has moderated itself externally but the same potential is still lurking. Islam remains unabasedly violent externally, admittedly due in part to politics and history. It doesn't mean that their cultures and rights have not been violated and plundered by the west nor does it lessen this injustice. Simply removing our armies- which I favor- is not going to solve the problem alone.

What ever.....what would you do if the Afgan army was occupying the US and they were killing our people? I know I would try to get them out, in whatever way possible. When is our country going to learn from the past? We already expelled an occupying army back in the 1700's to be free. Now we occupy Afghanistan and Iraq solely for a pipeline. I believe this entire reason of “war on terror” is a rouse. It is just a smoke screen. Half the shit you hear on the radio or read in the paper is a lie. Yes….SS. Pulling our presents out of the Middle East would improve how the world views us greatly. Might not make is perfect but it would be a huge start. if we pull out our presents then we won't get any presents either. What kind of Christmas would that be?

Oh and my apologies to the Jews, you can keep the old testament. Please don't kill me if I work on Sunday. I once had a hardcore evangelical tell me the new testament cancelled out the old because God had to clarify himself to man. I guess, "some new shit had come to light, man..."

Obfuscating the ongoing historical development of the Middle East, the process by which a potent strain of militant Islam came into existence, and how and when people are radicalized around ethnic, religious, tribal, and national identities by pretending that the Koran is a sort of timebomb set in the 7th Century is kinda silly. read your history, prole, and take a read through the Koran. To say nothing of other faiths, Islam has from its inception been a miltant religion of conquest. It is not going away therefore the hope is it will transform itself from within to coexist with modern civil society. That might come in the form of a new testament of sorts. The old testament of the bible is largely ignored today, thankfully, for it's a frightfully barbaric tome. The Koran isn't any different yet there's a billion faithful right now who read it daily. Pretending that organized religion in general isn't dangerous, or one in particular isn't just because of your politics surrounding it demand you give it empathy- well to me that is kinda silly. That's actually pretty far from the mark. Mohammad did unify what was to become Arabia, partly through military means, partly through commerce, but he was primarily a reformer. Ironically, women's rights, for example, improved dramatically under his reign (they had none prior to it). This makes sense, as he was married to an older, very wealthy merchant who wielded much influence. It seems that Mohammad's primary focus throughout his life was to create order out of chaos to improve the commercial and social situation in his region. His followers, of course, have since splintered and morphed him into whatever their sects require at the time...just like Jebus. The whole WOT thing is not a primarily religious conflict; it is a political one. Religion is simply a tool used for recruiting. Even the Taliban, which wraps itself so famously in the Koran, is driven by the lust for absolute power more than the establishment of any kind of religious paradise on earth. Take a look at what happened after the Islamic Revolution in Iran and what I'm saying is obvious. That regime's thugs immediately began violating the Koran; officially sanctioned rape comes to mind, after they took power. The formula is simple: take a 20 year old, give him a gun, a uniform, and tell him you can make anyone who is not one of us do whatever you want. In the name of Islam, the State, Freedom whatever. The cause doesn't really matter. He'll be beating, raping, and killing The Indidels, the Gooks, or Hadji the Goatherder in no time. didn't Muhammad also marry a 9 year old girl? The last paragraph exemplifies precisely why religion and nationalism are so dangerous.

Relax, prole, at least I'm not promoting the conservitard strategy of "kill 'em all" etc. My whole rant started from kevgump's simplistic assertion that all we need to do is pull out of the middle east and all will be fine. I generally agree with your usual points but I don't trust any religious based movements for anything and you shouldn't either. I don't think anyone should get a free pass. Citing all of the past and current atrocities of christians doesn't change the violence and power seeking of the other. And excusing/ explaining away the latter as a simple reaction to the west is a mistake. It is in part a reaction- opportunistically- and it is also a direct action. Lumping me in with kojak? Hey, sorry for the confusion, but this is kevbone's thread so anything goes.

exploring the globe? You mean those armies overrunning north Africa and eastern Europe spreading the good word via the sword? That sort of exploration? How are Muslim socities coming along with human rights, tolerance of non believers, women, freedom of speech, due process, etc?