mec

His plan is to act like everything is OK, have many press conferences, enjoy travelling via Air Force 1, and then have a good retirement paid for by you and I.

Many options for clipping shit to your pack. Plus they are there for looks... It definitely appears more rugged and outdoorsy if there are loops all over it.

So that's what I hear in my head. It has been bothering me all day...

and slide?

That is just one in each hand. They come in packs of 2.

Does that make you the nemesis's enemy?

go for some ding dongs, they really satisfy hunger I hear.

Tigger was a Tiger, not an owl, get it straight.

He actually does bear a close resemblence to Michael. Maybe they are the same person. Michael learned to play the guitar when he was sitting through his trial, looks like he did put a few pounds on though...

Who the hell is Jack White, and why should I care?

twinkies!!!

at least there are no pictures of fat housecats here...

What about the environmental cost of the methane produced by the cows that fed the miner the mined the sand, which was put on a truck to the glass factory where glass was produced, then turned into a bottle which was shipped to a filling factory to be filled then sent to a distribution warehouse then sent to a store and picked up by joe consumer and brought to his house where he then took it to the beach with him and drank it and put it in a recycling bin where it was picked up and driven the rest of the route in the back of a truck and brought to a transfer station where it was then shipped on another truck to the recycler where it was separated ground and remelted and on and on and on and on.... my that gets expensive. It is amazing we can buy a Coke and the bottle for less than a buck!!!!

all them lurkers need to come out of the dark and start posting!!!

Nice TR, I hope to get up on that route later this year! Good job!

but who would want to be seen in a Prius?

I know the original laws were against our wished. But then the laws changed per our wishes after the rebellion calmed down, and that cost money. the enforcement of these new laws cost money. That is what my MBA is saying, the government costs money no matter what we do (asking for change like fixing a road or forcing change through rebellion). I should sign out myself and get some work done...

I think I am even slower, but the way I see it the government spent 8 million bucks to have someone drive a backhoe and a bulldozer down the Darrington road to fix it. How is that any different than the government paying congressmen to make a law providing for civil rights, banning slavery, then paying courts and police officers to enfore them. 8 million bucks out of our pocket is 8 million bucks, some of it goes to fixing roads, some of it goes to making and enforcing laws.

Freakin' people!!!!

Freakin' Conservatives!!!!

Freakin' Liberals!!!!

YOu have strayed from the original arguement: the gov't does not do something when asked. We have now allowed for two pressures: violence and money. You are now argueing my point for me. Yes, I will agree that for big issues the goverment does not do something when asked, and they need a bit more convincing like riots, rebellions, protests, etc. However with the smaller issues, the government varies. The Darrington access road was fixed when a group of people asked which was my counterpoint to you saying the government 'never' does anything when asked

The people paid for the civil war, the people have paid for the constitutional amendment banning slavery, the people paid for the creation of laws providing civil liberties. The riots and rebellions convinced the government to spend our money to do this, but the riots and rebellions did not provide us with the actual slavery ban and civil rights.

We pay for everything the goverment does, regardless of whether or not we ask for it. Anti-slavery and civil rights were paid for by us (well, I wasn't quite around in the 1860's, so I didn't pay for it, but common folk did). The government does nothing without our money...

The government decided to fix the Darrington access road after receiving much input from concerned climbers. Not quite anti-slavery, but it was nice for them to do that after we asked them to.