kevbone

Some would disagree. Who asked you? Right back at ya!

Uh...Ok.

For water flouridation, that's a pretty lousy analogy. Also so true.

well spoken.

Believe it or not! De plane, de plane boss.

So true!

Some would disagree.

Some would say that ice axes are aid!

You got it. This is how it happenes in the world of spray.

“Notice, this is not in spray” The Ultimate Everything thread got me thinking. Something G-spotter said. None of the pitches are 3 or 4 star. Well, wouldn’t that be an opinion? I would think so. Who gets to rate a climb with stars? The person who wrote the guide? Personally I don’t like guides that star routes. Which seems to be in every book. It seems like starred routes direct climbers to certain routes. I would prefer more of a word of mouth preference than to see 5 star routes. Which brings up the next question, what constitutes the amount of stars? I would think the rock quality, how good the pro is, and how positive the holds are would constitute a star. G-spotter thinks none of the pitches on the UE are three stars, I personally would disagree. The UE has perfect rock with great pro. Maybe the pitches are not that long but would that alone bring the number of stars down? I am currently working on a guide for a recently developed climbing area. I am taking out all the adjectives like “great climb”, “must do” or the notorious “Classic”. There will be no stars. It’s just a list of climbs from left to right, the grade, what gear you will need and how to find it.

You still here? Thought you got banned.

Bill, you are welcome. How was New Years at the Coe house?

Wow, go Randy!

Your right that would be bad. Sorry, you’re also right, I was spouting off. I was venting specifically about Beacon. I will read more carefully next time. Sorry fellow bone.

I wish this was true when is comes to how the Washington Fish and Wildlife actually administrates “bird closures” at Beacon State Park. They have stated they don’t want “ANYBODY’ within 300 feet of the nest. As we point out that there is a trail that over 600,000 people walk up every year that is 200 feet from the nest, by there own rule, they should close the entire rock. When reminded of there own policy, they change the subject. I call bullshit. Close the entire rock and I would support that. Bitching gets me nowhere, but it feels good.

Where is the mag with ONLY climbing photos? I never read the article anyway.

Do you recommend from personal experience?

Fookin hippie.....but actually is a good idea.

is what?

I once had some powdered water......I didnt know what to add?

You guys had to go and post on this thread. Didnt you!

I miss Ken. He is on the left.

He was. This is the place were the "saftey" meetings took place.

nice

Explain please. You make no sense.