kevbone

Agreed....right to Ron Paul.

16304 posts. LOL

Sticks and stones will break my bones.......

Dont confuse balls with stupidity.

LOL, comparing the relatively amazing freedom and liberty you enjoy as an american citizen to "being able to choose between mcdonalds and burger king" -- god you make yourself sound dumb. You should go see the world, Kev. I have never called you a name, like dumb or idiot. Yet you do it all the time to me and others on the site. Who is the fool? Sure, you just tell me that I'm blind and living in ignorance and I only think that I'm free because I can choose between McDonald's and Burger King. How is that not insulting? You're such a drama queen. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. But it sure it fun to rattle his cage. Rusty Cage......

Me too.

Guess I was right.

Agreed that name name calling has nothing to do with the fact that we do live in a police state. I was not say name calling had anything to do with that topic. Ever heard of thread drift?

Better than Fox News. Yeah, but that's a low bar. So where do you get your news from? Serious question Rob. Lets see if you can answer it without sarcasm. I bet you will not be able too.

LOL, comparing the relatively amazing freedom and liberty you enjoy as an american citizen to "being able to choose between mcdonalds and burger king" -- god you make yourself sound dumb. You should go see the world, Kev. I have never called you a name, like dumb or idiot. Yet you do it all the time to me and others on the site. Who is the fool?

Hey that's my goal! I'm just not sure how anyone with toddlers gets out much! Some dads just abandon their family every weekend to climb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state A police state is one in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive. The inhabitants of a police state experience restrictions on their mobility, and on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state You think you are free because you can choose between McDonalds or Burger King. Or travel from here to Cal without papers? You wont be free until you can tell your government "no".

Better than Fox News.

"Police really need to get it through their heads that they have no right nor authority to simply order anyone they please around and expect it to be done. You are servants. Start acting like it" [video:youtube]

Police state. You didnt follow my orders....therefore I am arresting you. [video:youtube]

Wrong.....we do live in a police state. They have the power to order you around and if you do not comply, you get taszed or beaten or arrested. That is a police state my friend. the fact that Bone thinks this is a police state proves my point. You have your opinion....I have mine.

No one notices because America is not a police state. People who live in a police state tend to notice. America has laws and police but is certainly not a police state. +1. Calling America a "police state" proves you don't have any fucking idea what a police state is. That doesn't mean there isn't anything wrong with America, but hyperbole never fixed anything. I agree it is not as bad as other places....but a police state it is.

Climb outdoors more that 4 times this year.

Wrong.....we do live in a police state. They have the power to order you around and if you do not comply, you get taszed or beaten or arrested. That is a police state my friend.

Not possible to learn only one song to be complete.....but i felt complete when I learned to play this..... [video:youtube]

bush signed more executive orders than all the past presidents combined. How is that a "congress" thing? And do you know what they are? The real nasty stuff allcame through congress. Iraq, Afghanistan, tax breaks for the rich, patriot act. Ironically, bushes executive orders mimicked Ron Paul: less regulation, etc. You should consider taking some pol science classes at the U. I'm not being a dick, im serious -- you sound interested. So what do you purpose? Should I give my vote to Obama and just hope he makes better decisions? Seriously....what should I do?

bush signed more executive orders than all the past presidents combined. How is that a "congress" thing?

Heres the deal guys and gals. If you vote for Perry, Romney, Bachmann, Newt or Obama.....NOTHING WILL CHANGE. IT WILL BE THE SAME OR SHIT, THE SAME STATUS QUO. It is utterly disturbing that you are not getting this. Do you think by voting for Obama again that we as a people will be better off? Wake the fuck up. I believe it is time to move in an entirely different direction. Sarcastic reply from Rob in 3......2.....1 Hi Kev, I'll give you a non-sarcastic reply, but just one. a) if Ron Paul is elected, lots of BAD change will happen. EPA, etc. In fact, pretty much the only new control he'll have is to do bad things (i.e. abolish the FDA). He won't have any new power to change existing legislation, other than veto power I guess, but even then against a united congress he is impotent. b) he's already part of the establishment. I'm not impressed with his voting record, and am offended by his previous conduct. I understand that you aren't, but I am. c) If he REALLY wants to change things, he should focus on gaining power in the congress. He should move to the Senate. He should recruit others. Remember what the Republicans in the 90's did behind Newt Gingrich? Moving to president isn't going to give him much control to "Abolish the fed" and all of these other things that turn you on. d) so in the end, you get all of the BAD parts of Ron Paul (the parts he has the power to change i.e. EPA, FDA) and none of the good parts (because he can't just change legislation and his veto would probably would get defeated by a united congress on anything important). I mean, i suppose there would be some other benefits because some of his ideas would hold congress in check I guess, but it's not worth abolishing the EPA and FTC and FDA...) e)Look how unified the establishment is against him. You think they'll have any trouble over-riding a veto? And even if they can't over ride any of his vetos, he can't just erase existing laws. So again, all of the BAD paul, and none of the good. f) so if you think he's really going to change anything either, you're being pretty naive. This game has been over for a long time. Ron Paul is part of the enemy, and he's using honey to attract honest people like you, but he's a Republican, kevbone. He voted to go to war in Afganistan. He's been in congress for a while now. Look at his record. If he really wanted to change things, he's gonna fail because the guy just can't get anyone onto his side because of the crazy-ass shit that comes out of his mouth when nobody is looking. Sorry, kev, but you'll never get my love of Ron Paul, because I see through the charade. I agree with you though that Obama won't fix anything. But I'm hoping he will at least do less damage than whoever the Republicans offer up. The EPA and the FDA and FTC et.al. are flawed, but they do A LOT more good than nothing. If you dont think the president has real power, then you must have been asleep from 2000-20008 when bush was in power. He did what he wanted. He ignored the people. He was a bully.

I get your sarcasm but it is a joke to think that actual regulation is taking place.