kevbone

the idea that a person can claim a line indefinitely seems misguided at best, and it seems as though you suggest that honoring such a claim is the only polite way to proceed. I am saying that it's quite the opposite, and a decent case can be made that to claim ANY line as one's own reeks of impoliteness. Artists of Japanese tradition would not even sign their paintings because to do so would be an obvious reference to self, ie ego (ego transcendence is what they were after, although certainly not the case with most climbers today). So to me, claiming rights to a piece of publically owned rock is nothing but ego aggrandisement, and it needs to be understood as what it is. It's a need to be first, a need to be recognized, a need to leave a territorial piss mark upon the landscape of the climbing community. Whether or not you think this an acceptable form of behaviour is irrelevant really (since i concede a 6 month window for one to leave this stain), but let's at least call it what it is. You keep saying this, and we have all agreed. Do you have anything else to add?

What is the AAJ.

That is correct...but staying off it until the FFA has been done by the person who put it up is all about respect……and there is not enough of the latter as of late.

I agree Matt. IF YOU HOP ON ROUTE KNOWING SOMEONE ELSE WHO CLEANED IT IS STILL WORKING IT….YOU ARE AND ASSHOLE. AND YOUR ONLY CONCERN IS YOUR EGO……. Plain and simple. As far as time lines……please contact the FA party and start a conversation.

Little testy are we today? I am surprised Minx……you don’t recognize a good troll when you see one anymore. And to answer your question above….. Because its spray.

If its punk its most likely sucks balls.....

I spoke with Jim last night. He is planning on going, but his lights are out on his car and needs a ride. Bill? Ivan? I will be coming from Vantucky so it’s a little out of my way……Buler…..buler…..buler…..

We all know Hugh is a regular poster here with another avatar……question is who? Mods?

I have a friend give me a couple black flag albums on my computer then to my ipod…..I have to say…..they suck shit. There music is terrible. That is a lot coming from me who tries real hard to see good in almost all music……I need to remove them from my I pod…..

Ah....so sunny....I mean funny.

Punk is three cords and a lot of bad yelling they call singing. Most of the punk out there sucks balls…….punk, punk, punk…..punk!

Sniff sniff.....

I thought Cheney is the CIA?

I posted this in a different thread......so cool....

Oh so clever..... An intelligent comity found that Iran is no longer building bombs…..yet the bush crime family still war mongers on……

Hugh.....who are you??????

Man.....you guys would not know a good troll if it slapped you in the face..... jeez....chill out? Im about as chill as is gets.....I am ice cold....

Pretentious woman and anyone in Boston

So are they going to bomb or not?

You should try sniffing butts……it has worked for us…..

I would hope so Matt……maybe on paper. But when is comes to actually voting on issues……the Dems fall short of showing a spine every time. Why is that?

Oh.....there is one other way....

I like butts and I can not lie.......

kevbone, i know i'm your lap dog and everything butthat's pretty funny because it's true. I thought I was your lap dog? I hate it when I get that mixed up. Ruff ruff.