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No...but it sure is fun.

To far left? hahahaha. More like too far to the middle.

I agree.

Once again. Super fun route. And since the point of climbing is to have fun. I give it 5 stars. Sorry Rain. I know you hate this climb but I have to disagree with ya. On a personal level, I have to say I dont care about rap bolting in a wilderness area. Or breaking the law (when it comes to this topic), I am sure you have driven 56 in a 55 before. You get my point? K

Bug. Bolting the NR of Stuart is completely different than IB and you know it. Bolting a crack is different that placing a bolt where there is no crack. I say three or four places on the route that could have been gear protected. Out of all the bolts on IB…I say that is pretty good. Off. You know I love ya, but locking the other thread was not good. I have to agree with bug that we may not all agree, but the right to say it is invaluable. It’s not like you guys up at cc.com headquarters are running out of cyberspace. You locked it because it is the same old argument? So what? You might as well lock every single political thread. Take care Bone.

Off....why not just move it to spray? IB threads are a way better topic than say.....Obama threads.

The alpine rap-bolting "route"-setters made a "mistake" with their outdated maps. Now they should do the decent thing and fix their "mistake": They themselves should remove the route. Whew.....thank god I climbed it already. Super fun route….

IB?

Can we please discuss more important topics like IB?

Im confused by what this means. Is your argument that it is overbolted for the grade or that it is bolted at all? Since it sounds like neither one of us has ever climbed it (and maybe neither of us is in a position to really judge it), maybe we should both climb it this summer and reconvene here afterwards. I'm perfectly willing to change my position if conditions warrant it. My point is that comparing it to a 5.11 route to somehow justify bolting it is not accurate. I am sure it is great fun, nay, super fun. In my days of putting up routes we assessed the commitment value of a route given its location, difficulty, setting etc. While I understand the arguements in favor of this route, it sets a dangerous precedent for wilderness ethics that I would not want to be a part of supporting. I have placed bolts very sparingly in the wilderness when linking otherwise unlinked trad lines. These routes are still being done and are considered "Sporty" but "adequately" protected. The most bolts I have placed on any one pitch was two. I made good use of tricams, stacked stoppers, opposition, etc to avoid bolts in the wilderness wherever possible. From what I have heard, the decision was made to just make IB accessible to the masses and it ignores many natural placement oportunities. So yes, let's climb it and post a TR. Who wouldn't want to read that?. For god’s sake please go climb this climb. Then you would all have a valid reason to comment on it.

Bullshit.

I totally agree.

More like 10c/d IMO.

hahaha.....that is funny. More spliters.

lets all chip in It would be no use. Didnt we all chip in a few years back to buy him a new harness? Duck tape anyone?

Very fun route. Needs rap anchors to get off pitch 17.

Nice! Did this happen? Second that?

Dave. Do you like Sci-fi? If so....you should enjoy this movie.

Were you on an existing route?

Bone, you're soooo out of your league here. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing con law isn't your strong suit. this is spray right? Out of my league.....I am spray.

Take your shirt off and go look in the mirror.

In his sharply worded dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote, "The court's ruling threatens to undermine the integrity of elected institutions across the nation." They need to take the money out of Washington to fix the problem. Not allow the ones with the most money in.

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Step one to enlightenment, dont consider your child a burden.

Yeah, it's fucked up that Obama continues to fund those occupations, eh boner? Yes, that is messed up. Obama is funded from the right.