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back in the day when you could read a thin book and understand most of a language... now you need a stack of a dozen or so 600+ page books...

pretty sure sarah palin needs no help in that regard i'm all for civility in politcs, but jesus christ, not calling a true asshole an asshole just muddies the water... Pearls from Bachman. Derision is an appropriate response to such nonsense. ''Normalization (of gayness) through desensitization. Very effective way to do this with a bunch of second graders, is take a picture of 'The Lion King' for instance, and a teacher might say, 'Do you know that the music for this movie was written by a gay man?' The message is: I'm better at what I do, because I'm gay.'' ''If we took away the minimum wage — if conceivably it was gone — we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level.'' ''And what a bizarre time we're in, when a judge will say to little children that you can't say the pledge of allegiance, but you must learn that homosexuality is normal and you should try it.'' "Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.'' Bachman is losing.

We aren't talking about global warming (gee, what has Barry done about that, BTW?) - we are talking about tax reform. Barry proposed something like a 5.6% surtax on all individuals making more than 1 million. Kain proposed this 999 plan. Plenty of room here for discussion - of facts, without calling people morons or assholes.

basic social studies - there is no such thing as an "unbiased" history. better to have your bias up front and center so everyone can take that into consideration when sorting out their own personal version of "truth." We are not talking about history, we're talking about reporting. And yes, you can be unbiased. Did anyone know what Walter Cronkite's politics were when he reported? That's how it should be.

trying to appeal to assholes (the republican base) = being an asshole yourself ow's spot-on. BS. You have to argue your points at all time to get them out there. If you can't do it effectively, that's your problem.

Heaven forbid that someone dare come to a different conclusion than you, or see things differently! They must all be IDIOTS!

I agree. The Republican Party has been taken over by the right fringe and folks that might have a reasonably moderate bone in their body, Mitt included, are constantly covering their right flank. The press is pretty lame at calling most of the field what they are, blathering idiots. It's not he press's job to call people "blathering idiots". That's part of the problem of you progressives. The press should report in an unbiased manner and let the people make their own judgement. If an idea is "wacko" it's up to those who think it so to argue a better point. I'm disappointed you are going with this intellectually vapid shortcut, Jim.

Not a productive tack, OW. Each candidate is trying to appeal to the base to win the nomination, and one has to ask why certain ideas get support and argue against those ideas without being an elitist ass (I have contempt for you wackos!)

Acting is a great qualifying skill for politicians, Ivan! And Ronnie did a few things between the first and running for prez. Jon Stewart, OTOH... comedians aren't actors? just shooting the shit, mind you. politicians usually spend most of their lives being politicians, but there's alwasy room for gifted amateurs? populists sure don't like the status quo. shit, forgot this guy! and another republicant to boot! Don't forget Stuart Smalley.

As if Cain, Bachmann, Trump, Gramm, Palin, Norquist, Koch et al. deserve anything but the contempt of concerned, rational people? That anyone, much less journalists, takes this crap seriously blows my mind. If the last few years has taught us anything about American conservatism in its current form, it's that you don't negotiate with terrorists. You've just articulated exactly why you are not a serious person to discuss anything of substance. Your "contempt" for vast swaths of those you disagree with is obvious. Don't expect respect in return.

You seem overwrought, Prole. Aren't you capable of writing anything without being insulting, shrill and whiny? Good luck convincing anyone that YOU are not a member of some insane assclown posse.

Acting is a great qualifying skill for politicians, Ivan! And Ronnie did a few things between the first and running for prez. Jon Stewart, OTOH...

Well hmmmm, let's see, as far as a counter-proposal to the Pizza Plan goes, let's start with taxing the rich more and the poor and working class less. It's like the exact opposite and about as concrete. But hey, when did criticizing an idiotic proposal put forward by a presidential candidate require counter-proposals by ordinary citizens? Umm, nope, you're not concrete at all. Define rich, and working class. State the tax rates and brackets and changes to existing tax code. Currently there are quite a few people who are asking to "simplify" the tax code and eliminate loopholes. This is what is "appealing" about the 999 plan. We've seen post after post here on spray from libtards whining about Fortune 500 companies and multimillionaires paying zero taxes or a very small amount. A fixed corporate rate of 9% and personal income tax rate of 9% would stop that, no? So, you think it's idiotic, what could be changed to make it not "idiotic". It's easy to sit around calling everyone else a moron, but you sure don't impress with the lack of definite counter-proposals.

I could see a good chunk of Stuart from Granite Mountain (Snoq. Pass) last weekend. It looked to be at least dusted with snow probably down to the 7000' level and maybe lower.

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Noone should be faulted for voting against the R's and for BO, but anyone who thinks comedians exemplify ideal candidates, OTOH...

dood, if you're not already a lawyer, you oughta look into it - you'd be a stone-cold killer at delivering the chewbacca defense! [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1QI4P0YqtM&feature=related Ivan - don't you have anything better to do on your birthday, bratchik? Nalivaj!

BOLD! So what exactly is YOUR plan Prole? Exactly. Concretely. Let's hear it douchebag.

In every election many vote against the "other". We've covered this ground before. It's one thing to vote against the "other" - totally another to buy into bullshit sloganeering about "change". The most ironic part of it all are the morons here who referred to McCain as McSame - since BO has proven to be about as McSame as you can get. Door # 1 or Door # 2, eh? Well, I guess the world's a simpler place that way. Um, yeah there pretty much are two doors, fuckhead. Duh. But who gets put up as those choices can vary and your party, Mr. Card-Carrying Democrat with a capital D - could have picked a better candidate. McCain was and is a better choice than BO, albeit his running-mate had a lot to be desired (funny though, JMcC is still alive after 3 years so that one heartbeat away argument sure seems to fall flat right now, doesn't it...)

Wait, tell me again why it's bullshit to think that we're capable as a society to make things better and that elected representatives have a role to play in the process? 'Cause if that's the kind of headspace you're in, you should seek psychiatric help and stop listening to that silly music. Nice troll, Prole. I'm profoundly suspicious of political sloganeering. That's not "anti-hope". Indeed if anyone smacks of hopelessness it's you with your endless obsession with how the US blows, capitalism has "failed", and we are doomed. Nothing is good enough or makes you happy about the country you live in and the system you live under.

Archie might have one, but she's not posted for a long ass time.

In every election many vote against the "other". We've covered this ground before. It's one thing to vote against the "other" - totally another to buy into bullshit sloganeering about "change". The most ironic part of it all are the morons here who referred to McCain as McSame - since BO has proven to be about as McSame as you can get.

one... two Keep practicing, and maybe next week you can get up to 3.

Yeah, hope for a better future is sooo fucking LAME! Baseless hope built on nothing - no difference between that and a promise that three-way 9% taxes will magically work.

Yeah, it's so much less sophisticated than "Yes, we can!", and "Change". You bought it. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so bitter. A lover scorned? Or the best one "stay out da Bushes!". Sophisticated, nuanced sloganeering at its best!