archenemy

Go brotherhood.

Sure, it's just more run out.

Fortunately, that's not what I am looking for. However, if there were only one answer out there, I wouldn't need to solicit input and save a bunch of hassle, eh? Pantera rules.

this is a good ending: Pagliaro said the best advice he can give for anyone wanting to start climbing is to “make sure you learn from people who know what they’re talking about and take your time getting into the sport. Make sure you get in lots of practice on beginner and intermediate routes before you jump into a route like Infinite Bliss.” The underlying assumption sounds like folks immediately think that now the route is bolted, any schmoe can run up it. This is the psychological side of bolting that I am not sure I like.

“Most people who want to climb don’t want to be hard-core climbers. If the only types of routes available were traditional routes, there would be fewer climbers." Now *that* would be infinite bliss.

One month since they've been seen.

Does Huey Lewis play hockey?

the situation is that I am trying to get an understanding of when it's okay to remove bolts and when it's not. Thanks to everyone for putting their thoughts and suggestions out there--much appreciated.

Pantera of course!

Sounds like the makings of a good Cannibal Corpse cover

ut oh

So am I understanding that removing some of the bolts from a climb is only okay when a)you are the one who put up the bolts in the first place; or b)someone else retrobolted and in other situations, you cannot remove just a couple of bolts from a climb--you have to remove them all. (Oh, And you need FA OK to do this.) Is that the scoop?

Funny, it looks like a powerline to me.

agreed

When you check who's online, I can see you through your computer screen. Nice robe.

Hey! I need flies! You still got my list? Maybe I can get you banned in exchange.

I want to shave his jacket.

I feel more motivated already. I think I'll take up smoking so I can quit--it'll give me something else to focus on.

No, I do not think that the lack of an indictment "proves" innocence or guilt. Let me reiterate: My (limited) understanding of the legal process so far was only to decide whether to press charges against Rove or not: not to proclaim his innocence or guilt.

If it were you, and the evidence against you was not strong enough to bring up charges, would you think it was fair to have everyone examine unsubstanciated shit brought against you?

neither is NewsWeek.

when is it okay to remove a bolt (without the intention of replacing it)? what is the least harmful (to the rock) way to remove a bolt?

I am no lawyer, but I am pretty sure that folks are presumed innocent until proven guilty. My (limited) understanding of the legal process so far was only to decide whether to press charges against Rove or not: not to proclaim his innocence or guilt.

"If God wanted you up this obstacle, He woulda miracled your ass up here by now" describes my climbing this weekend to a T

Holy shit. That would not be a letter to me, that would be a new "War and Peace" length missive.