this thread is a giant turd.
its like when politics are discussed on this site everyone's IQ drops at least 100 points.
it sucks, because the discussions can actually be pretty good when you're looking for what you have in common vs how you differ. instead it de-evolves into how your opinion is more correct, and how the other party is so wrong and collection of shit bags.
not saying i don't have an opinion, but the joy of discussing that opinion with you guys is gone. I know where each and every one of you stand. I'm not going to change your mind, nor are you likely to change mine (especially the the level of dialogue that transpires here daily).