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Ha...even the "report it (in a journal or on the Internet) or not" thing is cyclical. There is something to be said for either. Without the desire to share experiences this site would not exist. And to say that only the elite should report...well that just sounds a little elitist.

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Unfortunately the only chances old farts like many of the people posting here had to change the "future of climbing" (whatever that is) was to procreate and raise children with certain ideals or to become respected in the community enough to influence the next crop even slightly. Kids are going to do what they want. They are going to listen to rock'n'roll really loud, they are going to get it on in the back of the car, they are going to rebel and carve their own unique path. Mistakes are going to be made, and things will evolve for better or for worse. Old people will still look at it as all being "worse" because old people don't like change. And when those old people die, their norms will die with them and the next generation will have their own definition of right and wrong. Obviously I'm not talking about life or death ethics here...but everything else including what you think is OK for someone to do with a purely for pleasure pursuit isn't even in that realm. Your rant about how the kids have got it all wrong may resonate someday down the road when bell bottoms come back into style. But not so much right now. What I find strange is that supposedly smart and experienced people don't recognize this. But I guess old people have been yelling at the youth to get off their lawn forever.

This is exhilerating.

5. What can shareholders do about runaway CEO pay? The short answer: Not much.

http://www.aflcio.org/Corporate-Watch/Paywatch-2014

APPARENTLY ONLY REPUBLICANS COMMIT CRIME! I DID NOT KNOW THAT!!! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1709387

http://jesusnorepublican.org/+Reasonable/gopimmorality.html saving this site for later use when I'm in the mood. great tawdry stories!

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT????? http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/study-90-of-criminal-corporations-are-republican/17764-study-90-of-criminal-corporations-are-republican

FOUND A NEW SITE FOR YA http://www.evilgopbastards.com/ DIDN'T READ IT BUT BASED ON THE NAME ITS GOOD AND FACT LADEN

WOW FAIRWEATHER KRUGMAN NAIL YOU TO A POST DOESN'T HE? AYYYY LMAO http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/18/opinion/paul-krugman-errors-and-lies.html

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that was neither fulfilling nor enjoyable.

OH YEAH? WELL UR AN IDIOT!!!!!

An Internet Forum, in concept, is a great place for a meaningful exchange of ideas.

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R U GAIS HAVING A CARELESS OFF???? NO...NO....IT IS I WHO CARES LESS!!!

[video:youtube]wptzVm0tngc so glaciers and rock faces in there, pretty cool tech

wrong kids....this is precisely the state of spray these days. they guys are all getting ready to punch each other in the nuts and giggle about it. Mark is the one in the middle.

so you really think he identifies as "armed" then? you don't see that as a stretch at all...like maybe he found it on the internet and stuff? should we throw occums razor out first? https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11423_844402868931319_1487128148262335915_n.jpg?oh=02b2152bbf0062e5b58105abc9066a54&oe=5608C41B -fellow asshole

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Fuckaroo is not hateful, just derisive. I mean it's not like I identified myself as "armed"... why are you always jumping in on me or FW when we use a term like Fuckaroo or libtard and silent at all the Republifuck/etc spew? The one-sided outrage is so black and white it's not even debatable. Enjoy this sunny day while it lasts! who identified themselves as "armed"? as in they have arms? and legs too? what? Who is outraged? onesided? I'm not the arbiter of truth, as I'm sure you'd be one of the first to point out. But I do have an opinion. I'm not laying down any laws, but last I checked "Libtards on Parade: Alcoholism, Corruption, Murder" was started by FW. I'm sure the intent of this thread was to have a meaningful discourse free of insults. "hateful" vs. "derisive"...what are you Bill Clinton? But no doubt most people who post in spray are assholes, that's why I never do. Sorry for being so mean and picking on ya! Have a good weekend.

Yes, I do seem to have a point of view, don't I? Sorry man. I know you didn't invent being unkind...there is plenty of that to go around.

Well that first paragraph isn't even a complete thought but I'm not going to be bothered to go back and fix what it was I was thinking (or not thinking).

Is it not wrong to say that it is primary, for instance, waging this "war on science" since the data the scientists have been uncovering on (for instance) climate change doesn't support their agenda? And maybe you "thinking Republicans" or "thinking Conservatives" think those people are fucking nuts (the people deny scientific findings, and then try to defund scientist to combat their findings), but you have to band with them or you will never get anyone elected. But really it is pretty myopic to say that "Libertard" (or any other such trollish insulting slang designed to elicit an exchange of hate as some of you enjoy doing here) are challenged with reality in general. The reality is that stupidity is a universal language that exists in any and all political points of view. But to admit that wouldn't allow for the meaningful exchange of insults that is desired. [video:youtube]IKbLquqxBAQ