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What he said.

For example "Dr. Flashing Anus" "Doctor Felch Arectum" "Sexual Fagnutz" "Fagnutz Moderators" etc etc etc. Is this acceptable? I'd say this is more than just expressing an unpopular opinion. We're giving the moderators too much work. Disagree with me, but at least keep it from being deliberately offensive, inflammatory, or gratuitous.

Dwayner, I see you point, and I have no objections to people voicing their opinions. You have a valid point about the "it's all good" phrase. I should have put it differently. I cannot edit my previous posts anymore, so I cannot change what I didn't mean to say. So I'll have to qualitate my statement here. I do not find peoples' "sport climbing sucks" attitude inherently annoying. Indeed, my best climbing memories and favorite routes are most often in the mountains or trad lines. However, when people start verbally attacking others based on the type of climbing that they practice, I become annoyed. I have no desire to discuss bolting arguments. My only beef is with people who deliver personal attacks on others. Believe me, I do not advocate bolts everywhere, and I agree that overbolting and indescriminate bolting are deplorable. Look at what happened to Flagstone in Oregon. Again, it is not the opinion that I find annoying, it's the way that some people express that opinion. Telling DFA to fuck off and get his ass back to Smithrock.com is ridiculous. This is an example of what you say shouldn't happen. It's a climbing board. This might be an opinion, but the way it is delivered is, to me, offensive. Opinions are the spice of life, but let's try to remain civil. And if Fleb is who I think he is, we can argue about the merits of sport climbing at SG. See you in the Mountains!

Hey, look! Caveman voted for #6! I'll bet the other one is Trask.

A comp? Like inside? Like bouldering? Duuuuude.....you better watch out for Caveman. He'll tell you to go back to www.sportclimberzzzz.com. This page is for Alpine Hardmen. Sound fun though. I'll probably be busy.

Honestly, I am not picking on you, only voicing my opinion that the general SportClimbingSucks attitude held by a few prominent individuals on this board is inherently ridiculous considering the intent of this board. Maybe they should start their own website: www.sportclimbingsucks.com. It's all climbing, and it's all good in my book!

Why should only alpine hardmen be able to post on this board? I remeber some TR about top-roping a muddy crack at the columns, is this more noble than sport climbing? Take the poll.

Hey Eric, you got a pagetop! Start spraying!! And to the guys in the photo: Ladders are aid! Old School! Just ask DFA!

I'd go. But I have homework to do. If I get out on Monday and manage to stumble in circles in the dark I'll write a TR.

Depends what a small animal is. can be pretty huge. Does a bear count?

True, but the packs would be nice for carrying skis on an empty pack. An intriguing idea, but I think it won't work. I am reluctant to vote, however, as the idea is cool, and for canyoneering and snaffle-fests it might work. Then again, you need a snaffle-proof tent too.

The K3 isn't made anymore. I have the new replacement of the K2, the Eiger. The support isn't enough for steep snow and moderate ice, like what we found on Chair. Also, when kicking into hard ice the flex of the boot seems to reduce penetration of my crampons. I have essentially no ice experience and have never tried any other boots, but I think a rigid boot would be more appropriate for steep stuff.

Strange idea. Why did outer-frame packs get dropped again? Seems like these packs wouldn't climb very well. Sure, they are -proof and waterproof, etc, but they are ridiculously heavy. It looks like they would be good load-carriers, but wouldn't suit climbers very well. The support must be good, but at what price? And the only way to open the thing is to take the entire back off. That means that EVERYTHING falls out, right?

Everybody should have two stars. It prevents feeling of superiority, snobbiness, and pathetic power-star struggles. Okay, sorry, not everybody should have two stars. Some should have one. Bu three is simply ridiculous. "This it what it's like when two stars collide!!!" (Powerman 5000).

I've got em and I like em. They tour great with the cables removed, ski well with the cables on, and are pretty durable. Only problem is, they obviously don't hold climbing boots. I climbed hood in my tele boots and found that they ski better than they climb (and this was the South Side!). The main problem is the duck-bill toe that keeps front points from penetrating. And I think that for climbing approaches AT would definitely beat snowshoes.

Yeah, what happened to the Skyhoy? Seemed promising, but they pulled it after one year.

Just giving you shit Eric . I tried them in your basement. And I don't think my leashes had anything to do with my cold hands on Saturday.

And they cut off circulation in your hands as there is no buckle thingy to keep them from gettin too tight, they have a way funky design that hurts my hands, they are heavy, and since Eric has them I will never buy them! I think that if I don't keep the webbing of my BD leashes around the tool they will work very well. Will report once tried.

I have some problems with that leash as well. The loop of webbing that goes around the tool is so low that when I let the tool dangle, it catches on my thumb when I try to flip the tool back to my hand. Releasing the cuff with my teeth is hard because I can't get my hand out easily, maybe the entire cuff is too small. Also, that same loop of webbing makes it impossible to get my hand to the head, so I can't use the tool as a cane. Maybe I should just cut the loop off, and let the tool dangle when placing pro. And Caveman, what do you mean by inside out? The padding is on the inside. If you turn the cuff inside out, the padding is on the outside, and the D-rings are on the inside, and everything is screwed up.

A sport-climbing Twight?! Scary!!

PAGETOP! Hell yeah!

I have thought about this. Climbing isn't 'fun'. Why? Shredding my hands in a rough hand crack isn't fun. Being terrified of falling isn't fun. Belaying for an hour lashed to a icy belay and then getting the screaming barfies isn't fun. Hell, even bearing down on razor crimps at the gym isn't fun while you're on the wall. So what gives? Do we climb cause it's inherently ridiculous? or because we can? or because we get a kick out of being in a place that we were not meant for? I don't know, but I'm going to the gym tonight!

Sport climbing is fun and safe. Trad climbing can be scary, but usually safe. Alpine rock is fun/scary w/out gear. Alpine mixed/ice is fun/cold/scary/expensive/dangerous/and a BLAST. And bouldering outside is almost as contrived as the hard layback at the columns.

Hey mvs, the photo of me (orange pack)...that's on the last pitch, right? I was cold enough that I didn't look around, I just climbed as fast as possible to get warm. Nice photos!

Hah, SG is where it's at.