Bullshit, Private Pile. They are equivalent. And while we're at it, allow me to equate rap bolting with sward swallowing......ooops, I mean, aid climbing. That's right. Yes, yes! Rap bolting = aid climbing. Both require equivalent amounts of athletic ability (very little) and subatomic quantities of Courage....oh shit, was that an upper-case "C"? Aid climbing = crude engineering (in the words of Dick Cilley) = sport climbing (which doesn't even start from the bottom of the cliff..technically, it ain't climbing).
man pope, that is some serious harshness. good grief that means at least half the climbing i'm doing recently doesn't count and i should probably go slash my wrists or something
there's a place for all of it and don't even wave the enviromental impact card. that's a different albeit similar debate which i'll mostly concede.
last night i "climbed" (what's the term you want me to use if i didn't start it from the base of the cliff? ) a route that i could not have climbed if we had not built an anchor and dropped the rope. Sorry....i was pushing myself guess i should quit doing that eh? Part of the route doesn't take gear well and yes i AM afraid of falling. So unlike your polite counterparts in this debate i won't be. you're wrong...it's climbing and it's good.