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aluminum toxicity? the amount of adjuvant in vaccines is relatively minute to compared to the amount that your child is going to get from aluminum cans and other packaging by age 5. if you are uncomfortable with the amount of vaccines given concurrently, please feel free to space them out and take as many trips to the physician as you'd like. unnecessary vaccines are certaily a matter of opinion. some i would not question your decision on. for others the consequences are grave. chicken pox v. polio. herd mentality ...clever. whatever. herd immunity is valid concept. you're dismissal with the clever use of language does not make it any less relevant to community health.

Are we talking about disagreements on how to interpret statistical results (probabilities, error boundaries, etc.)? Or do you have some sort of fundamental problem with the scientific method (eg, solipsism)? both, and then some. i believe this is where you questioned the scientific method

Are you some sort of BDSM rubber duck biologist? That's hot. i retired last year. i do something else now involving leather and whips

not only have i read up on my T-cell lit for this argument, i've read up on my recombinant, attenuated, and whole cell vaccine +/-thiomerosal, as well as initiated a vaccine clinical trial for non-ininferiority of a new vaccine formulation.

no this is logical deductive reasoning. not drawing his own conclusions. based on your comments, regardless of your willingness to acknowledge the implications of your own remarks, the logical conclusion is that you're only looking out for your own self interest. it is the same conclusion i drew in an early post. if that were the case, then her child would be safe, since it was immunized. Immunity is not 100%, but really what you seem to be implying is that we should only look out for our own self-interest. If your kid has some candy, I'm totally stealing it. you seem to be drawing your own conclusions here....

yes, but it was really good and i drank a lot and don't remember its name There is a MacCallan 12YO that you can only get at the duty free that is f'ing awesome. thanks jon, i clearly need some today. and i'll be travelling soon so, i'll pick up a bottle for the plane ride.

Kimmo, I am not going to spend my time re-reading your posts. i frankly don't give a rats ass about your position on autism, its your position on vaccination that infuriates me. and what precisely is your problem w/the scientific method? i would support your questioning of statistics if we were simply discussing one review or analysis of the data but we're not. there is ample concurring evidence from multiple international sources.

kimmo read my above post and go read up more on the complete mechanism of vaccine protection not just the immunology 101 level you've been given but what ever hocus pocus groups/websites you've been reading.

thank you bosterson. i am not good at summarizing things. the written word is not one of my strengths kimmo. i understand the concept just fine thankyouverymuch. and please, me a nice person, no one should ever think that. and i always love the justification, "well not very many people don't vaccinate so its not a problem" so basically what you're saying is that you want just enough people doing what you consider to be the wrong thing to protect your kid from disease. great isn't that an extra special level of selfish.

alright this is one of those subjects like climate change that just gets under my skin. what evidence have you seen that vaccines contribute to autism. there isn't a single study out there that was even remotely controlled that shows a link between autism and vaccines. in fact there isn't even one particular line of research that people can follow to connect those dots. is it thimerosal (a preservative) gee...no thats not it. most vaccines don't even have it anymore! is it bacterial infection from MMMR? nope...thats been discounted. so why the heck do you people not vaccinate? there is no causal link at all, none! go someplace and look at the ravages of not vaccinating and then tell me you're doing the right thing by your child. there are plenty of other more realistic theories relating to the genetics and environment of kids with autism. are you really so scared of things that you will cling to any security blanket that the internet hands you? "oh if i don't vaccinate my child won't get autism b/c thats what some folks posted on the internet based on unreliable antectodal evidence" accck!!!

same take as me???? its not something to have an opinion on, its science. herd immunity isn't some random cocktail party hypothesis. OK>..if you care so much why are you ignoring the science? i just do not understand this. i used to work in this field. i find it shocking that people think this way still.

have a nice afternoon kevin

i'm not the best at explaining but look up the term "herd immunity"

b/c its an important subject and one i particularly care about...sorry for giving a shit

....must...not....spray.....

3 links to review articles which summarize the evidence AGAINST a relationship between vaccination and autism. they review data from multiple sources and studies which are sited in the articles for your further review. those of you who do not vaccinate your children but the rest of our children at risk for serious diseases. other reason likely for autism a review of MMR and autism thimerosal containing vaccines...review article no links

Boring....i've been there

yes, but it was really good and i drank a lot and don't remember its name

you know, the usual

liar...you do not. you put serious time and thought into that description. i bet that gal (and many others) will never get naked w/you again.

geez rob...serious word smith aren't you. you know, its just that kind of descriptive language that turns the ladies on and changes the climate

no no, don't bother rumy. nothing kevbone says is worth clicking

trust me, that climate can change too

kevbone, i'm spee(a)chless...i actually agree with you. jon, i was busy having a life so i didn't want J&K but i do see on yahoo that they're getting divorced....gee, who'd think that could happen....

we never discuss climate change anymore