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I agree that Williams broke journalistic ethics and lost credibility, which destroyed his ability to do his job but the discussion has broadened to "firing at will" and the lack of free speech in the American workplace.

I am confused because from your earlier post I understood that you valued tolerance of other viewpoints within your biz as long as it didn't interfere with your clients. When I ran my business, people's belief and speech were totally off the radar as long as they did their jobs. In fact, it isn't uncommon that I feel closer to people with whom I don't share many values.

So someone being fired for saying something while it didn't affect their job performance isn't a free speech issue? You do know that the US is the only OECD country without free speech in the workplace?

So you don't have problem with someone being laid off because their speech shows they aren't religious enough? Someone insulting your client clearly committed a professional error and should/could be sanctioned for it.

This is about as succinct as it gets. These gross generalizations aren't very helpful. A minority of regressives control the political process because citizens are disenfranchised and it's difficult to blame them for it considering the repeated betrayal by Democrats.

Speech should be free when it doesn't impact job performance. Firing at will is consistent with authoritarian rule. here come the silly hyperbola. Nobody is comparing your living room to a workplace.

Free speech is a property right? Interesting. It's not what I said. I said that your rhetoric about free speech was empty rhetoric because you don't believe in free speech in the workplace.

we already know that you don't really believe in any other right than those deriving from owning property.

The firing of Bill Maher for saying 9-11 was blowback was fine, the firing of Donahue for being anti-war was fine, the firing of Sanchez for saying jews controlled the media was fine, the firing of Helen Thomas for saying jews should get out of Palestine was fine, ad-infinitum ... In fact, the firing of anybody because employers can fire at will is fine ... but the firing of Williams for his bigoted comment on the most racist cable network in the US is an attempt on freedom of speech. Williams is clearly not the only one having a problem with consistency.

liar.

???? The supreme court reopening the floodgates to corporate money in elections that were turned off post Watergate is the same as it ever was? What are you trying to hide?

Life, Liberty, Property. What's not to love, junior? many things, but right now, your dismal reading comprehension is what's not to love.

the nincompoops do it every time: "it isn't racism because arabs aren't a race" fuckwits.

the wealthy are buying elections and the retards cheer as if they cheered their football team.

Yeah, keep pretending this is a partisan issue. That's smart... It is a partisan issue for the corporatists and their toadies. Their pretense of wanting democracy is coming off and they'll even taunt you when you point out they are buying elections.

Nice "liberalism" you got there that upholds the denial of First Amendment rights for most people during the majority of their waking hours (while at work). Add to that the "right" of property owners to censor speech while on their property and you've effectively restricted speech to people's cars and homes. Funny kind of freedom... When the veneer comes off the "liberty" rhetoric, it becomes clear that only the right to private property should be enforced according to regressives. To think these people claim ownership to the main current of thought coming out the enlightenment is rather laughable.

Speaking from experience running into cows?

That's a pretty minimalist interpretation and a dangerous restriction on freedom of speech. States like California understand that and acknowledge free political speech for employees of the private sector as well (or even on private property used for public gathering like malls)

Very nice, Off, but could you please exhibit your tasty morsels in the privacy of your quarters so that none of the boys be tempted?

was the bear charging the cow?

Pauperization is NOT efficient in government or elsewhere. Got it? Yes - show me a list of all of the folks in government that would be pauperized by converting their pension to a 401(K) and increasing their deductibles, co-pay's and premiums. we'll look into it as soon as those responsible for >90% of the revenue shortfall return the booty. dude, go easy on the kool-Aid.

hallelujah

ewwww, stinky, and what a surprise! Only the state can deny free speech according to the service libertarian. only because his appearing repeatedly with the extreme right on FOX damaged his professional credibility.

Pauperization is NOT efficient in government or elsewhere. Got it?

if the scheme involves not paying people a living wage, it is certainly not more efficient at anything except generating profit for a few.