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What are you saying? Condoms never tear! And the pill is 100% effective! Birth control never ever ever fails!! Birth control fails all the time (and it can happen whether you're 17 or 37), but that's not what I was talking about. Many of the posts have been blaming the pregnancy on abstinence only sex ed policy in Alaska assuming that's the reason for the pregnancy. For all we know, Bristol knew all about birth control in spite of the abstinence only teaching yet she still got pregnant because nothing works 100% of the time. logic and reason have no place here!! watch that first step off the soapbox, junior...

What are you saying? Condoms never tear! And the pill is 100% effective! Birth control never ever ever fails!! Birth control fails all the time (and it can happen whether you're 17 or 37), but that's not what I was talking about. Many of the posts have been blaming the pregnancy on abstinence only sex ed policy in Alaska assuming that's the reason for the pregnancy. For all we know, Bristol knew all about birth control in spite of the abstinence only teaching yet she still got pregnant because nothing works 100% of the time. i'd take a wager on that one... Gary's point is that its hypocritical either way... 1. either she used BC and it failed, but mom was against using BC in the first place 2. or mom was for BC and it failed anyway 3. or she didn't use BC and that abstinence didn't work All we do know is that Sarah Palin is on record as against teaching safe sex and family planning and her teenage daughter is now pregnant.

weak...very weak... many kids won't do drugs...its a rare kid that fantazises about booze and drugs but not sex... seems to me, when i was a wee little teen, it (sex) was always on my mind...come to think about it, its still there...and i rarely think about when i'm gonna go get pounded and fucked up...

You're absolutely right. We don't know the circumstances of the sex, nor what mom told daughter. However: - if mom taught abstinence, that's an ironic anecdote of the ineffectiveness of teaching abstinence - if mom taught safe sex, that's hypocritical for mom to teach one thing but pass laws to teach the other thing Above all though, I think peoples' anger with the whole thing is how the Repubs are embracing it, where were it some black/Latino/poor person, they'd be lambasting them for trying to get on the welfare rolls.

shhh porter...don't startle the little bible thumper...he might trip and fall off his soap box and hurt hisself!

if you are gonna "paraphrase" me, at least get it right... WHat i said was she couldn't figure out birth control and got into the situation of being pregnant in the first place...i said nothing about keeping the baby being a smart choice or not...

we had a most excellent weekend! and basically just climbed the classic crag lines. but yeah we prolly don't rate too good on the iq scael. then why were you bitchin' about HMW???? moron...

Stupid stuff Bristol Palin has done: 1) Gotten pregnant - Reason: sex is fun Stupid stuff Gary Yngve has done: 1) Bivied 30' off the ground due to stupidity 2) Got lost walking to Kurt's house - Reason: "the road makes a jog" 3) Very bad dresser 4) Whined all over CC about his Grad School advisor hey mark mcjizmonyourchin... gotta give the stupid award to bristol on this one... gary's a tool, but a 17 year old who can't figger out birthcontrol is a fuckin' moron (or maybe she hadn't heard of sex ed???)

OMFG...this THE post of this thread...

going to squish on a holiday is flat fuckin' stupid unless you go find less traveled routes and areas...

I said "preemptively"!!!!! now get out of the way...i have to seige Classic Crack...

gotta disagree... its one thing if its a group of buddies out for an afternoon of fun...its completely another thing for an organization to preemptively monopolize an area or crag... its the principle of who was there first...ie, if i get to a cliff before the mountie toolz i have first dibs and they can fuck off and go somewhere else, regardless of what their little preplanned calendar and trip list says... I love it...they "declare" that they are going to an area on such and such a date and get out of their way...

jeezus... and top roping is an excellent way to learn to be a decent climber... I think it woulda been funnier if the "gangbanging" crew would have told you "No, each one of us 9 people are going to pull the rope and lead it"

if he sticks with it...we'll see... i have to give props to Tyson and the vw team...i think they are slipping them steroids in their kool ade!

he climbs cracks already...

he wanted to lead it but i said "no, not today"...

what did you wind up calling that route? what rating? right now, we are calling it 11b and "the rope swing route" because of the rad swing off the anchors...

Yes...he just turned 9 two weeks ago...Kevin...i can't describe how cool it is to go cragging with your son and buddies...it ROCKS!

its between stevens pass and leavenworth...

Did you take your kids there, NOLSe?

i need at least a season to prep for that thing...

Just past pluto...

Nason Ridge...