sorry i offended your tender ears, it was in response to the term "sport monkey", somewhat insulting...as you said, most likely not .11d...Try to hear what i was saying...the place was made for steeper hard climbing (i know hard is relative)...ratings under mid 12 are a joke there...no one's arguing that...
And it is Ronald McDonald Play land...You ever have any fun as a kid????? That's what its for...
Just editing...guess i flung first insult w/ "trad geek"...my bad...