oh look...there you are...fuck you again... 
  
but back to the point...so lets see...banging the fuck out of so that you can get rps/fingers in with a pin is considered "preserving" the rock, yet a 3/8" hole w/ a stud isn't???  hmmm...lost me on that one somehow... 
  
hey, btw... are you one of those yesteryear icons?  just wondering