for the alex lowe deal I think you could leave it at all bets are off climbing in the himalaya. at least that's what the rescue insurance says...or is it just an altitude, don't remember
hey I started up moonshine dihedral w/o a rack one time. went to place the first piece up a ways...whoops fun to downclimb to have your partner throw a rack of gear at you.
p.s. I'm only occasionally this dumb.