scott_harpell

How are you a militant if you can't fight someone capable of defending themselves? You are less than a terrorist. Targeting 6 year old naked school girls is nothing but cowardice... evil cowardice.

Good point Matt, but if propaganda and hate speech is created by the enemy, you have no chance of winning their hearts with a candy bar... The radicals are a cancer and must be cut out.

...and French journalists are currently in a hostage situation with Arab captors.

However unpopular your assertions, they are correct. The same holds true for the Russia/Chechnya situation as well. This is NOT the Crusades no matter how badly you want to make it. We have a way of dealing with transgressions and murdering and slaughtering innocent 6 year olds in front of their mothers by the hundreds is not it. Cowardice and Evil in the most extreme.

Look at Breslav and you will see the sort of people you are dealing with. You want to talk reason? Reason with a people who would kill women and children indiscrimintly? You are dilusional at best if you think there is anyother way of dealing with these people than eradication. Cold... Hard... but its the fucking truth.

classic!

...and there it is.

uhm... ask her nicely and she will probably stop.

There are definite pro's and cons. The lowered price of fish results in a need for commercial fisherman to catch more wild fish to keep a profit. What to do about that? Subsidy? I think we learned our lesson with corn... Plus it tastes icky.

I don't see policies outlined in Kerry's speech. I see him saying: "I want a stronger America," "I will end nuke arms prolif" and "I will make all the other nations like us". That is the kind of platform you hear at a presidential election at the H.S. level. How are you going to do this? Are you going to impliment a 3.2% tax increase to enable spending for essential resources? or are you gonna snap your fingers and make all the baddies go away?

Otherwise it's just arm-waving like the Greenies.

I watched a clip of him yelling the same stuff against G. Bush Sr. After watching his explanation, I do think he has some serious gripes with the democratic party; though it does seem he is overlooking some of the same shit in the GOP. Anyone thinking someone has their eye on a 2008 GOP nomination?

NO. and that is precisely the point I was adressing.

ChucK "You got snitty because you thought that the candidates themselves should be voicing their platforms. Ralph showed you that Kerry stated many positions of his platform right in his speech, that you implied that you watched!" I think that should be the goal of an election race "It makes me wonder why you are posting this question?" Because obviously none of you can answer it. I can. Neither have made any statments. The point of this is to show that this is a popularity contest. We are not electing the best leader but rather the guy whotalks the most shit. Is this not an issue worth adressing? Or is this kinda thing something you feel is vital to the electoral process?

You are missing the point slothie. I said NEITHER candidate has SAID what their platform is; other then ANTI-the other candidate. But I think you would rather be mired in bi-partisan bickering despite the fact that this has nothing to do with the statement that started this thread.

Does it say how he is going to do it? The only unifying statement in Kerry's speech is that "I wont do something different than GWB... I will do everything different." Many of these statments seem to be mutually exclusive ones. You want stronger arm ploliferation? Without alienating allies?!? It is all fine and dandy that you want a stronger America, but how are you going to do this (besides doing the opposite of everything that Bush has done). Mabe I am asking too much of politicians, but this seems ludicrous to me.

Die Zeit's article shows the waring of the VP's as well going back to Dan Quayl getting insulted. What was the point of showing me 2 articles which prove my point precisely?

Did you read Die Zeit? Because... despite my reading difficulties, I cannot see any Kerry articles that do you attack Bush's war record. All show eh?

Slothrop, I do not see anywhere on the NYT website where it says this was stated by Kerry. True, it may be his platform, but that wasn't the point of this thread. Was it?

Actually the insults started at your implication that I watch Fox News. This is a tired overgeneralization and it is quite false as I don't even have a television.

You were vague and over-simple, so I "took liberties". You complained (I think) about bi-partisan bureaucracy getting in the way of fighting a war. Please give evidence of this, or mention an alternative to bi-partisan democracy/bureaucracy that would be more effective at fighting wars within the framework of our Constitution. Take a nap if you're getting all tired out by this, cheif. My suggestion as to the restructuring of the government in the U.S. must simply come from both parties. Both accuse the other of the division of the U.S. If you are too worried about seeing your fellow americans as enemies, you will not likely have the time to deal with the real enemies that are flying planes into your office buildings, and taking an entire school hostage. You rattle on and on about the evils of "Bushco" but nothing about the horrors commited by our real enemies. Is it not cool for a liberal to be against a minority... even if that minority is hell bent on ending your ass? That is beyond ridiculous. You want an example of bi-partisan politics hindering the war? Here it is. Once you have comitted to a war...ride it out. The war was voted on... mistakes were made... We cannot do anything about that now. You have some on the left calling for a complete withdrawl today. You have others, who voted for the war saying that we should not have gone in there. The current democratic candidate is one of them. We are at war. There is nothing we can do about this now, but pull together and do all we can to protect our soldiers while they finish the job they started. I am not telling people they have to support the war, but like it or not... we are there and we will be there until the job is done and it is done right. What good does dividing the nation do? The main difference I see in Vietnam and Iraq is that in Iraq... good can be done... freedom can come to these people... and it already is. In Vietnam, this was less than a pipe dream. Lets band together to finish the job that we started instead of sacrificing our chances of sucess so that we can berate and chastise someone (deservedly or not) to further our own political aspirations.

1) I highly doubt it. 2) Mabe you would. 3) I clearly asked if they 'said' something about their platforms... as in personally owning up to a platform rather than having an office jockey write their party platforms verbatim on their official website. 4) I believe it was you who told me to "Shut the Fuck Up" If you would like to continue, I would suggest you try to appear a bit more intelligent by either 1) not swearing; or 2) at least be creative with you swear words. Telling me to Shut the Fuck Up doesn't really accomplish much now does it?

Somebody needs a visit from the fatty blunt fairy. Are you this violent and confrontational in person, or is this just some internet schtick? Wait, wait. I want to be there when you find out. Tickets $5 a pop. Too bad it would last about 1.2 seconds.

If you are looking for a form of communism, I suggest you move to China... this oversimplification of matters tires me. Not everything is pinko commies or capitolist dictators... there is middle ground... I promise.

When you assign names such as posers, you suggest they have no validity. Truth be known, Rummy's men are professionals as well. It is true that they made a mistake in judgment, but it in no way warrants your comparisons to vietnam. Furthermore, because there were conflicting intelligence reports, I fail to see how "every" intelligence data point says we need to go in there with everything we have. The Iraqui army did fall fast, but the miscalculations came into play with the so called insurgents. It is never as simple as you try to make it; especially in war. Mistakes were made... no-one denies that, but for you to say that people are intentionally endangering their troops and with total disregard for their safety, I think you are taking quite a few liberties.