scott_harpell

you should play rugby then! way less rules.

I played since I was a little kid. I stopped playing seriously after I got really tall. We outta have a cc.com pick-up game sometime!

developmental individuality does not begin until after the cells are latched onto the uterus. It is merely a conglomeration of cells until it is attached. As soon as it is attached, it begins the process of growing into the form of a human. At two weeks (or shortly after implantation) the heart is formed, functional and operating. I make a distinction between the mass replication of cells prior to attachment and the specific creation of bodyparts by replication that happens post implantation. These replications actually make human body parts like the heart which as i said before is functioning very soon after the implantation.

Actually a heart beat is detectable after only 2 weeks. The reason that I am in favor of morning-after alternatives and an outright ban on abortion is that you have to wait to have an abortion (chemical or otherwise) until it is way past this level of development. That is why I am all for a total ban on abortion but ok with IDU's etc.

Ooooh hey! I implied that you were both juveniles (that is why I included the ). I don't do drugs anymore but I will partake of my spiritual soma and be on my way. adieu

classic!

Read my lips: Put Down The Bong.

Well the deal is that it isn't even a fetus prior to implantation. Once implantation occurs the embryo is created and the embryo grows organs. I would say that when it is just cells replicating I don't think of it as a human.

as long as you make statements like this, the right will continue to drift right and any hope of you finding an electable candidate left of Churchill will be hopeless. If the Christian right in places like Oklahoma can tell people on the west coast who they can and can't marry then we can make jokes about feeding them to the lions. You are all juveniles. Maybe you can grow up and act like adults and sort your shit out rather than being a wedge making our country more and more divided. You think you are any better than they are? Give me a break. I am for gay mariages. Yeah go throw me to the lions too though ass hole.

Yes. Well first of all, a woman is not pregnant until the implantation. Her hormones and body changes have not even started. There is also a sense that she hasn't started to "carry" the child yet. Also IUD's do not kill a fetus but rather prevent the implantation of the cells into the uterus. There is also a large amount of 'fertilized' eggs that do not ever attach to the uterus in the first place. I am not sur on figures but I know it is quite high especially in humans. Maybe this makes sense to you, maybe not.

Wow!!! That's original!

Well if I support the right for a guy to murder whomever he wants you can't cram your beliefs on me MmmmK?

I would say that as soon as it attaches to the uterus. This would allow for the morning after pill. I know I take a position most would not but that's just where I am at. I think that this means that we can take responsibility for our actions and if "hey! shit! we just had unprotected sex!" we can do the responsible thing and take care of it rather than just saying, " oh hell if i get prego i can just get an abortion." I doubt many hold my position but i support it.

Well I honestly equate it with murder. If i were to let go of my impositions on people who get abortions I would have to get rid of those pertaining to murderers. I just think there is a better way to handle it and it disgusts me that while people are trying to conceive and all they want is a child to love others are throwing their carcasses in the garbage. It sounds gross but it is the truth.

I don't follow babes. I didn't vote for Bush, I don't support his ban on gay marriage, his economic policies are attrocious and the list goes on. Are you making generalizations again?

as long as you make statements like this, the right will continue to drift right and any hope of you finding an electable candidate left of Churchill will be hopeless.

I just prefer adoption to just killing the baby. There are way more than enough parents to go around that are waiting for a child while people are killing millions each year. It doesn't make sense to me.

County.

I have already told you that I don't care if they stay or not. I am just providing you with insight on what others may think. I know you may like it in here where you don't have to do that but perhaps some of your actions are the reasons that Christians are fighting so hard for this stupid stuff. Can you get that through your heads? Are you listening? Or is you Jesus-Freak sensor going off so you are turned onto kill mode.

but I think the reason that most Christians want them to stay is that they feel attacked. They are not willing to concede anything as they see their views as being attacked and marginalized; especially in the pacific northwest.

The other problem I have with the taking down of the 10 commandments is they have been replaced by other religions' litterature. In my last year of public school, teachers were not allowed to put up christmas posters but were allowed to observe hollidays like rammadan and even chaunikah. You tell me if that isn't a reason that would make Christians want to fight for their rights and concede nothing.

So you would support "post-natal" abortions?

Have you read them?